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The Decentralized Future

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Re: The Decentralized Future

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Happy to answer any follow-up questions here

Thanks for this writeup! You've done a great job at organizing many of the points that were discussed in this Bitcoin thread[1] from last month. I'll be using this as a starting point for discussion with friends that are interested in cryptocurrency. [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16158463

Thank you. That was the intention, to provide a primer for discussion.

Re: The Decentralized Future

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Or it's like all the other services we have, it evolves from decentralized to centralized: email, search, forums,...The case could be made even for governments. The only limit was technical, now you can control the cabs in all the cities from one place. The future is definitely more and more centralized, just look at the money distribution.

My guess is that we're having our geeky dreams without thinking what's the reality happening around us. It's very comfortable to be utopist when thinking of bitcoin, instead of seeing that it's still the same winner-takes-it-all scheme.

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I’ve reacently read the Burnskie book about crypto assets in the hope that I might come away more enlightened about the market and how to assess it. The opposite was the case. After reading the book and looking into it more, it’s very hard to see these things as assets at the moment, or to see much utility in the technology. Don’t get me wrong, there certainly is some and it is certainly ‘cool’, but right now blockha…

Money transfer is still very difficult. As in right now, short of paypal, I cannot send you money easily without leaving my chair in under 1 minute regardless of where you are in the world. Send me your bitcoin address and the problem is solved.

The biggest problems with Bitcoin (specifically) are: 1) it is not necessarily a store of value and 2) it fluctuates too much.

If someone can solve these two problems then we will have an extremely powerful cryptocurrency.

Re: The Decentralized Future

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Or it's like all the other services we have, it evolves from decentralized to centralized: email, search, forums,...The case could be made even for governments. The only limit was technical, now you can control the cabs in all the cities from one place. The future is definitely more and more centralized, just look at the money distribution. My guess is that we're having our geeky dreams without thinking what's the re…

This is just an example of technical change aligning itself with real world human want.

People will ALWAYS put convenience first. Even those that say they won’t, it’s typically an isolated action (like, email is harder when not using google apps, but it’s worth not being spied on. Walk in their house, Echos and smart devices everywhere).

The hope for Blockchain is we can now, finally, begin building true decentralized things without sacrificing this innate human want for convenience. It’s technology advancing towards multiple mutual goals (a technical one and a human one).

Re: The Decentralized Future

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> Chris Burniske and Jack Tatar suggest that crypto assets have low/negative correlation with traditional asset classes

The DJIA and Bitcoin charts seem well correlated, at least over the past month: DJIA: https://www.marketwatch.com/investing/index/djia Bitcoin:https://bitcoincharts.com/charts/bitstampUSD#rg30ztgCzm1g10z...

In my opinion people treat it as they would any speculative asset.

Re: The Decentralized Future

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Or it's like all the other services we have, it evolves from decentralized to centralized: email, search, forums,...The case could be made even for governments. The only limit was technical, now you can control the cabs in all the cities from one place. The future is definitely more and more centralized, just look at the money distribution. My guess is that we're having our geeky dreams without thinking what's the re…

This is just an example of technical change aligning itself with real world human want. People will ALWAYS put convenience first. Even those that say they won’t, it’s typically an isolated action (like, email is harder when not using google apps, but it’s worth not being spied on. Walk in their house, Echos and smart devices everywhere). The hope for Blockchain is we can now, finally, begin building true decentralize…

Lightning networks to handle scaling limitations are the first step on the slow re-centralization of bitcoin. Eventually an overwhelming majority mining will be controlled by a centralized/federated oligopoly.

Be prepared to rebel and re-re-decentralize in 20 years.

Re: The Decentralized Future

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are ICOs illegal in the USA?

It is illegal to sell securities to non-accredited investors

I think a good argument can be made that a law restricting the sale of non-registered securities to wealthy ("accredited") investors and excluding poor people violates the Equal Protection clause of the 14th Amendment. (And, although the 14th Amendment applies only to the states, the Supreme Court has held in Bolling v. Sharpe (1954) that the same principle operates against the federal government via the Due Process clause of the 5th Amendment.)
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