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German court rules Facebook use of personal data illegal

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Re: German court rules Facebook use of personal data illegal

#51

Good A lot of Germans use Fb with a fake name anyway

>A lot of Germans use Fb with a fake name anyway To FB the fake name is only yet another datapoint connected to your identity. Make no mistake, they know who you are and what you did last summer, and can pretty much predict what you will do next summer as well. Or worse, influence what you will do.

You can hide from your your boss, your wife, or even your mother, but you can’t hide from Facebook.

Re: German court rules Facebook use of personal data illegal

#52
post #7

If the appeal doesn't go Facebook's way, what is the resolution to this? It sounds like they'll just have to update their terms of service to say that you agree to allow Facebook to use your data in XYZ ways. Of course, that'll be buried in the fine print and no-one will even notice.

> It sounds like they'll just have to update their terms of service to say that you agree to allow Facebook to use your data in XYZ ways. Of course, that'll be buried in the fine print and no-one will even notice. If you read the first paragraph of the article, you'll notice that that is in fact the thing that the court is talking about: the degree of consent created by their terms of service process is deemed insuff…

Ah, I didn't see that when I read it. That's good!

Re: German court rules Facebook use of personal data illegal

#53

I think if I was creating a new social media website today I'd probably not set up any presence in the EU. The sheer quantity of fines for vaguely specified "crimes" being handed out makes it a deeply unattractive business environment and it seems to be getting worse. I remember when Facebook was new, one of its big competitive advantages was its easy and comprehensive privacy controls. I didn't see other social netw…

I think it shows that the EU actually cares about their citizens.

Re: German court rules Facebook use of personal data illegal

#54
post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Deeply unattractive business environment for companies exploiting people's personal data without their consent? Good.

You can stop using Facebook if you want to

You can stop Facebook from using you as well in the EU.

Re: German court rules Facebook use of personal data illegal

#55
post #14

I think if I was creating a new social media website today I'd probably not set up any presence in the EU. The sheer quantity of fines for vaguely specified "crimes" being handed out makes it a deeply unattractive business environment and it seems to be getting worse. I remember when Facebook was new, one of its big competitive advantages was its easy and comprehensive privacy controls. I didn't see other social netw…

Deeply unattractive business environment for companies exploiting people's personal data without their consent? Good.

If you volunteer your data to Facebook I have a hard time considering you to have been “exploited.”

Re: German court rules Facebook use of personal data illegal

#56

I think if I was creating a new social media website today I'd probably not set up any presence in the EU. The sheer quantity of fines for vaguely specified "crimes" being handed out makes it a deeply unattractive business environment and it seems to be getting worse. I remember when Facebook was new, one of its big competitive advantages was its easy and comprehensive privacy controls. I didn't see other social netw…

1., If you store data of EU residents, you are under EU jurisdiction (GDPR) and can be targeted by fines. 2., The EU is a very rich, large market - considered the single largest economy in the world (GDP per capita). Good luck not targeting it with your products. 3., The pendulum around data protection is swinging back, this is normal. Apple saw it and adjusted already. Google is cooperating and staying quiet. Only F…

Largest economy in the world per capita? Where did you get your numbers?

GDP per cápita in the EU is around $37k. The US is $57k per cápita.

That puts it at 46th in the rankings.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_the_European_Unio...

Re: German court rules Facebook use of personal data illegal

#57

I think if I was creating a new social media website today I'd probably not set up any presence in the EU. The sheer quantity of fines for vaguely specified "crimes" being handed out makes it a deeply unattractive business environment and it seems to be getting worse. I remember when Facebook was new, one of its big competitive advantages was its easy and comprehensive privacy controls. I didn't see other social netw…

Homework: find the bit when signing up for a FB account that explains how they use tracking from buttons loaded on non-FB pages you visit while logged in.

Re: German court rules Facebook use of personal data illegal

#58
post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> USA doesn't constantly fine its firms for not doing "enough" The EU isn't fining its firms. It is fining US firms. Big difference.

This claim is completely unsubstantiated.

Except for the article in question which is about the EU fining a US firm.

Re: German court rules Facebook use of personal data illegal

#59
post #18

Wait until GDPR is in place in May and German and other EU courts will rule FB to death. IDK how FB will ever be compliant with GDPR and survive that huge upcoming fines in the long term or in the worst case the withdrawal from these markets.

The GDPR isn't actually as bad as people claim. The law is actually pretty reasonable. It is the result of years of discussion and deliberation. In fact, privacy watchdogs are complaining that it doesn't go far enough - it leaves plenty of holes.

Most of the GDPR is about informed consent, having a valid reason for processing personal data and individual rights.

Facebook will do just fine, they had years to prepare and an army of lawyers. It will force them to be more transparent, which is a good thing.

Many EU member states like Germany already had very similar laws in place (like the BDSG), the GDPR unifies and standardizes them.

Here's an excellent introduction:

https://ico.org.uk/for-organisations/guide-to-the-general-da...

Re: German court rules Facebook use of personal data illegal

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post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Deeply unattractive business environment for companies exploiting people's personal data without their consent? Good.

You can stop using Facebook if you want to

Will Facebook remove all of my personal data and attest to no longer collecting any future data from my online of offline activities?
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