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In Japan, there's an industry devoted to cleaning up after people who died alone

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Re: In Japan, there's an industry devoted to cleaning up after people who died alone

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Is a decent solution to encourage pet ownership (dog or cat) among the single elderly? Not only can they help alleviate feelings of loneliness while you're alive but they could theoretically be trained to get help if you fall or if you eventually pass away.

Good idea. This way, even if you die alone, you can know that you will still be providing a useful service to your pet even after you are gone, as food for it!

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Have you been in a Japanese hotel room? It’s a bed, plus about a few square feet of access pathway into the bed.

Have _you_? I’ve stayed in both ‘international’ hotels that cater to foreigners and in business hotels which explicitly discourage foreigners by having literally everything in Japanese and they’ve all had fairly standard sized rooms for a hotel.

When I visited, I stayed in a business hotel in Ikebukuro, a ryokan near Chidorichou station, a youth hostel in Kyoto, and a hotsprings hotel in Hakone.

The business hotel's room was tiny (as described by the person your replied to). The ryokan's rooms were a very nice size. The hostel's were tiny (either 4.5 or 6 tatami?), but the bathrooms were down the hall, at least. The hotel in Hakone had decently-sized rooms, but not as large as the ryokan. I don't remember them being any more cramped than when I've visited cities in Europe, anyhow.

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Have _you_? I’ve stayed in both ‘international’ hotels that cater to foreigners and in business hotels which explicitly discourage foreigners by having literally everything in Japanese and they’ve all had fairly standard sized rooms for a hotel.

To the parent's point, the one's in your description seem to all to fall on the expensive side, either for rich-ish foreigners or rich-ish Japanese.

They weren't and I can't possibly fathom how you got that from the description.

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To the parent's point, the one's in your description seem to all to fall on the expensive side, either for rich-ish foreigners or rich-ish Japanese.

They weren't and I can't possibly fathom how you got that from the description.

From the part that mentions that they are "international hotels that cater to foreigners" -- so not some local cockroach hotel for junkies and poor people (not to mention the fact that they need to have enough money to travel to an expensive country like Japan in the first place -- 2/3rds of the world couldn't even afford the tickets with a year's salary).

And from the other part that mentions "business hotels" and especially ones that "explicitly discourage foreigners". Except if those are the rare kind of business hotels for poor destitute businessmen.

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They weren't and I can't possibly fathom how you got that from the description.

From the part that mentions that they are "international hotels that cater to foreigners" -- so not some local cockroach hotel for junkies and poor people (not to mention the fact that they need to have enough money to travel to an expensive country like Japan in the first place -- 2/3rds of the world couldn't even afford the tickets with a year's salary). And from the other part that mentions "business hotels" and e…

I think maybe we have a mismatch of cultural expectations. When I traveled in America I saw a lot of those junkie hotels - they're simply not really even thought of as viable hotels in my country. When you drive America you see America is poor.

An actual example from two of the categories I've actually stayed in.

ANA Crowne Plaza Okayama - $116AU a night. Not shockingly cheap, but cheap nonetheless.

PRINCE something something, in Osaka. 6000JPY a night on a public holiday.

No matter your definition of cheap, they're not 'expensive' hotels.

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Off Topic: This is why my mother sends me an email every morning. Should be the other way around. Parents watched us every hour when growing up, as adults we should be the ones checking on them constantly. In the West I rarely hear people who talk about their parents with great love and care. Instead I see parents praising their children all day long. These kids grow up feeling like a prize and they do not develop en…

Though my opinion may be extreme, I only think of family as a group of people/dear friends who I've grown up around, and parents as caretakers. Yes, I do own them for taking care of me (which I know was a pain), but they are also the ones who chose to do so, without my consent. Should I be grateful to people who force their values on me? I think not. At least, not so much as for them to completely rely on me when the…

I don't know reading this comments make me feel offended. I guess that's a problem with myself. But I can't help thinking if our parents didn't take care of us without our consent and waited for getting consent from us about whether we should be taken care of or not, would we be there to give them or not to give them consent?
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