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Thunderbird Starts Working on Improving Its Interface

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Re: Thunderbird Starts Working on Improving Its Interface

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Post by ttoinou »

zerokernel wrote: post #43
qznc wrote: post #10

A redesign is a great symbolic move to fight "Thunderbird’s key problem is being perceived as either dead or stagnant". Still, Thunderbird needs a bigger vision. What does Thunderbird want to be? The cross-platform Outlook? Then merge Lightning into core. The native Gmail? Then get a conversations view. The backwards-compatible, easy, and secure mailer? Then merge Enigmail into core or make SMIME easy to use or get s…

> The native Gmail? Then get a conversations view. Thunderbird has had a ML/usenet-like conversations view forever.

Which one ? The one I'm using is not that great

Re: Thunderbird Starts Working on Improving Its Interface

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Post by jstewartmobile »

CJefferson wrote: post #49

How about fixing 6 year old bugs, which mean you can't search for the word "wedding"? This kind of thing is why I left thunderbird. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=752844 At the least do a pass over old bugs and let us know if they will ever be fixed, or close them.

Same could be said for many desktop programs. MS Office also has its share of decade-old bugs. I guess shuffling the buttons around is more important.

Re: Thunderbird Starts Working on Improving Its Interface

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Post by Tomte »

zerokernel wrote: post #43
qznc wrote: post #10

A redesign is a great symbolic move to fight "Thunderbird’s key problem is being perceived as either dead or stagnant". Still, Thunderbird needs a bigger vision. What does Thunderbird want to be? The cross-platform Outlook? Then merge Lightning into core. The native Gmail? Then get a conversations view. The backwards-compatible, easy, and secure mailer? Then merge Enigmail into core or make SMIME easy to use or get s…

> The native Gmail? Then get a conversations view. Thunderbird has had a ML/usenet-like conversations view forever.

That feature is... problematic.

I am using TB as my mail client and there are so many things that work. Almost. So many things to configure, but not in the way that I feel would be natural.

TB is mostly worse than Outlook, but still much better than most other clients.

Re: Thunderbird Starts Working on Improving Its Interface

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Post by Tomte »

This redesign is just playing around with colors, background images and minor visual adjustments to the message view. Nobody needs this.

I was hoping for a redesign of the UI, the ways you interact with your mails.

This is one of those „look, I played around in Illustrator“ things, not „I thought about the problem“.

Re: Thunderbird Starts Working on Improving Its Interface

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Post by gkya »

Do yourself (and to other e-mail users in the hacker community) some good and use something like Mutt or Gnus. Sth. like Thunderbird is not worth the hassle if you can edit a configuration file and read a man page (most folk here, I'd guess), and who can't is using Gmail and/or the app on their phones anyways.

Re: Thunderbird Starts Working on Improving Its Interface

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Post by plopz »

SyneRyder wrote: post #24
mrweasel wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What does that even mean? What mail column?

Presumably the column with the list of emails in the currently selected inbox. (2nd column from left.) Some email clients have multiple rows of information in that column - the first row might have name & subject, the next row might show the first two sentences of the email. Or it might have the subject on a separate line, so the column can be kept narrow but still show the full subject line. Think of the iOS Mail or…

I hope they don't go in that direction, I like my emails compact on 1 line.

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Post by rainbowmverse »

cpeterso wrote: post #42

As a heavy Thunderbird user, my biggest complaint is offline support. An IMAP sync will download new emails' subject lines, but not the actual message bodies. Clicking on an email subject line then requires freezes Thunderbird for multiple seconds while it downloads the message body for that single email.

Right click the account and go to Synchronization and Storage. Double check on individual folders. I know this works because my ImapMail folder (in the profile folder) is much bigger than it would be if it only had subjects, and a quick sampling shows full messages.

If you have this on and it's still taking seconds, the problem is probably coming from something else.

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