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Alert About Missile Bound for Hawaii Was Sent in Error, Officials Say

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Re: Alert About Missile Bound for Hawaii Was Sent in Error, Officials Say

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This should not happen, yet time after time we see that critical American infrastructure and systems are run worse than a pre-revenue bay area chat startup. American infrastructure needs to invest and hire/pay for the same quality that bay area startups do. Let four people go that are inept and less qualified and pay a single solid person market salary.

Besides the fear and chaos potentially caused to people in Hawaii there are financial implications if the stock market were open.

Re: Alert About Missile Bound for Hawaii Was Sent in Error, Officials Say

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Serious question: where would one seek shelter if that notification were true?

The more underground you are, the better. Shield from those gamma photons! If that ain't an option, jumping into the ocean doesn't seem like such a terrible idea.

I would be wary of the hydraulic shock (assuming the blast is near the ground), and if one is still alive, radioactive sodium will help:

>Salt in seawater readily absorbs neutrons into both the sodium-23 and chlorine-35 atoms, which change to radioactive isotopes. Sodium-24 has a half life of about 15 hours, while that of chlorine-36 (which has a lower absorption cross-section) is 300,000 years; the sodium is therefore the most dangerous contaminant since it has the shortsest half life.

Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Underwater_explosion

Re: Alert About Missile Bound for Hawaii Was Sent in Error, Officials Say

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Serious question: where would one seek shelter if that notification were true?

The more underground you are, the better. Shield from those gamma photons! If that ain't an option, jumping into the ocean doesn't seem like such a terrible idea.

This parallels the recommendation from the 50's and 60's.

Re: Alert About Missile Bound for Hawaii Was Sent in Error, Officials Say

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I've read that it was a human error when someone pushed the wrong button. I feel bad for that person.

What is this like lost where he had to put the code in hourly? Why was someone in a position where that mistake happened in the first place?

Re: Alert About Missile Bound for Hawaii Was Sent in Error, Officials Say

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There’s not much of a consensus on “cover”, hence people seek insight on the concept from law enforcement officials. Is it cover when you’re inside but 30 floors up in a high rise?

That is actually reasonably well-established - check out this: http://static3.businessinsider.com/image/58cc34b9112f7043268... Not common knowledge, though, in part because nuclear hazards have been painted in an exaggerated light by Hollywood (basically, no point in trying to survive, because everybody is going to die and what's going to be left is a 1,000-year lethal nuclear wasteland), and in part because we stopp…

Off topic, but the same guy (Michal Zalewski) has an absolutely amazing guide to his CNC work.

http://lcamtuf.coredump.cx/gcnc/

For something a bit less depressing.

Re: Alert About Missile Bound for Hawaii Was Sent in Error, Officials Say

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I will go out on a limb and say someone hacked the system and decided to prank an entire state.

Fun fact, in my small hometown you could and possibly still activate the tornado warning system using DTMF and a transmitter on some frequency in the 149mhz range.

To clarify, I never actually attempted it but I had a uniden radio scanner in my teens and noticed the pattern for the 12:00 test.

Re: Alert About Missile Bound for Hawaii Was Sent in Error, Officials Say

#60

This should not happen, yet time after time we see that critical American infrastructure and systems are run worse than a pre-revenue bay area chat startup. American infrastructure needs to invest and hire/pay for the same quality that bay area startups do. Let four people go that are inept and less qualified and pay a single solid person market salary. Besides the fear and chaos potentially caused to people in Hawai…

American infrastructure needs to invest and hire/pay for the same quality that bay area startups do.

Looking through the Github and Slack system status pages for this month so far ... I don't know that's exactly the model to follow.

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