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Re: YC Bio

#51
post #36

Color me skeptical. I have a form of cystic fibrosis. I have gotten myself mostly well when that is not supposed to be possible. I was a homemaker for a long time. Eating right and germ control are a very large part of what I do and it isn't rocket science, as they say. I also can see no means to turn it into a business model or income stream, nor even get anyone interested in benefiting from what I know for free. It…

"Things that are actually health promoting, like having a full-time parent to care for the kids and primary breadwinner" Are families with two working parents actually less healthy? Do you have a source for that?

No, I don't have a source.

We are seeing a huge rise in problem pregnancies, birth defects, etc. There are likely a number of contributing factors to that reality. It isn't PC to wonder if maybe the rise of female careers is at related. That is viewed as antifeminist and so on.

Women routinely take time off work to care for relatives, whether their own children or other relatives. They get no credit for this vital work and how it impacts the health of people.

My experience suggests there isn't any point in trying to prove it. It won't get taken seriously anyway.

It is common knowledge that small kids in daycare have more health issues. My sister, who has a career and works for the CDC, used to quote studies at me about that. She managed to stay home with her only child for the first few years.

But, of course, in searching for info to support the idea that small kids in daycare get sick more, one of the most prominent pieces I can find is a PC piece assuring parents that the increased negative health effects of early daycare "has a protective effect later." Meanwhile, the study completely excludes data on, for example, hospital stays. Looks nicely spun to me.

Other pieces outright admit that staying home is simply not an option for many women and go on to talk about how best to protect your child from germs at daycare rather than exploring statistics. Yet the fact that you can google the question and there are pieces trying to address it at all suggests it is a real issue and parents ask about the problem a lot. But society can't fix it, so it isn't really comfortable to admit that it is a real issue.

Home cooked meals are also generally healthier than takeout, microwave meals, etc. Two career couples tend to not do a lot of cooking from scratch. Diet significantly impacts health.

Re: YC Bio

#52

Color me skeptical. I have a form of cystic fibrosis. I have gotten myself mostly well when that is not supposed to be possible. I was a homemaker for a long time. Eating right and germ control are a very large part of what I do and it isn't rocket science, as they say. I also can see no means to turn it into a business model or income stream, nor even get anyone interested in benefiting from what I know for free. It…

As a physician, you're absolutely right. There is a HUGE range of problems that can be made better by proper diet and regular exercise. Although there are a few efforts here and there, nobody has figured out a reliable way of changing human behavior when the initial action is hard but the rewards are far away. We seem only to be good at short-circuiting dopamine reward pathways so people log in to Facebook more often.

I'm not claiming to do better: my "give a motivational speech when I see you in clinic twice a year" approach certainly isn't worth shit.

But just because one approach is important does not mean others are snake oil. CF has a clear biological basis, and there are randomized, controlled trials proving that secretion management (e.g. DNase), glucose control, timely antibiotics and anti-inflammatory meds, and chest physiotherapy work. These trials also establish an average effect size (whereas your anecdote only tells me about you; I have also had patients who took similar measures but still died young). The average person with CF died at age 25 in 1986 -- today it's above 40.

Re: YC Bio

#53
post #2

Living healthier for longer will not help the healthcare crisis if the tail-end of life has the same health distribution. I think healthspan is a more important first target that lifespan. It's great to see some targeted support for bio, though! It seems like a harder market division to get into than a pure tech company.

If people live healthier for longer, then there will be a larger share of healthy people to pay into the pool of sick people, which should help the healthcare crisis.

Re: YC Bio

#54
post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Things that are actually health promoting, like having a full-time parent to care for the kids and primary breadwinner" Are families with two working parents actually less healthy? Do you have a source for that?

No, I don't have a source. We are seeing a huge rise in problem pregnancies, birth defects, etc. There are likely a number of contributing factors to that reality. It isn't PC to wonder if maybe the rise of female careers is at related. That is viewed as antifeminist and so on. Women routinely take time off work to care for relatives, whether their own children or other relatives. They get no credit for this vital wo…

Wow, this is extremely sexist and not at all evidence-based.

Wouldn't it be nice if you could prove any nonsense proposition p simply by insisting that p "isn't PC" and therefore any attempt to prove p "won't get taken seriously anyway" so it very-well oh-so-likely must actually be true!

And of course, asking males to take time away from their careers is out of the question...

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#55

Timing is perfect on this. We are fortunate enough to be witnessing Year One in the Age of Crispr ;) For those brainstorming startup ideas some relatively recently funded companies include: eGenesis - Dr. George Church's company that uses edited porcine stem lines for human xenotransplantation Twist Bio - synthetic bio for applications ranging from novel materials to data storage Denali - focus on age related neurode…

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Re: YC Bio

#56
post #52

Color me skeptical. I have a form of cystic fibrosis. I have gotten myself mostly well when that is not supposed to be possible. I was a homemaker for a long time. Eating right and germ control are a very large part of what I do and it isn't rocket science, as they say. I also can see no means to turn it into a business model or income stream, nor even get anyone interested in benefiting from what I know for free. It…

As a physician, you're absolutely right. There is a HUGE range of problems that can be made better by proper diet and regular exercise. Although there are a few efforts here and there, nobody has figured out a reliable way of changing human behavior when the initial action is hard but the rewards are far away. We seem only to be good at short-circuiting dopamine reward pathways so people log in to Facebook more often…

controlled trials proving that secretion management (e.g. DNase),

The current mental model is that people with CF overproduce mucus and are drowning in their own mucus. I believe this to be incorrect. We underproduce mucus. Giving the body what it needs to produce enough mucus makes a big difference. Inadequate mucus production is one of the ways the body's immune system is compromised and fixing that is entirely about proper nutrition.

I am well aware of the increase in life expectancy thanks to better drugs. I also used to take about 8 or 9 maintenance drugs and they made life not worth living. I was in constant excruciating pain for 3.5 years. No amount of pain medication really stopped it and my sleep quality was atrocious. I got better in part because I wanted to hurt less and I did not care if that accidentally killed me.

I had a life before my diagnosis. After my diagnosis, all I had was drugs staving off death. I frankly can't comprehend why more people with CF don't commit suicide. It's a horrible way to live.

All the drugs have a six page handout listing side effects. They trade short term gains for long term costs, take credit for the benefits and blame your genes for long term negative impacts.

I am not against drugs. I was thrilled to get a diagnosis and be able to ask for Zithromax up front. But there are things very, very wrong with our current approach. If anyone but a doctor did such terrible things to someone, they would be charged with a crime.

I think I was unwelcome on CF lists in part because people who had literally tortured themselves or their child balked at hearing that maybe you don't have to be tortured. I think accepting the torture and making their peace with it was a necessary psychological survival mechanism and they probably could not even name their objection to what I was saying.

I don't hate physicians either. I'm having a terrible, terrible day and speaking to these issues on HN is basically evidence that I have finally snapped. I don't like hurting other people. But trying to not hurt other people is essentially killing me. These are things I cannot discuss anywhere. It isn't socially acceptable. And that is part of the problem. Other people not only can't speak of it, many seem incapable of even thinking about it. It isn't acceptable for someone with CF to want a life. Just not dying yet is supposed to be all we aspire to and that's it. And I am incapable of swallowing that.

Re: YC Bio

#57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, I don't have a source. We are seeing a huge rise in problem pregnancies, birth defects, etc. There are likely a number of contributing factors to that reality. It isn't PC to wonder if maybe the rise of female careers is at related. That is viewed as antifeminist and so on. Women routinely take time off work to care for relatives, whether their own children or other relatives. They get no credit for this vital wo…

Wow, this is extremely sexist and not at all evidence-based. Wouldn't it be nice if you could prove any nonsense proposition p simply by insisting that p "isn't PC" and therefore any attempt to prove p "won't get taken seriously anyway" so it very-well oh-so-likely must actually be true! And of course, asking males to take time away from their careers is out of the question...

I am on the record as saying both parents should be involved. When I said primary breadwinner it was intentionally framed as gender neutral. I have been the primary breadwinner in my own household for more than a decade while my adult sons took over things like housework.

Re: YC Bio

#58
post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Things that are actually health promoting, like having a full-time parent to care for the kids and primary breadwinner" Are families with two working parents actually less healthy? Do you have a source for that?

No, I don't have a source. We are seeing a huge rise in problem pregnancies, birth defects, etc. There are likely a number of contributing factors to that reality. It isn't PC to wonder if maybe the rise of female careers is at related. That is viewed as antifeminist and so on. Women routinely take time off work to care for relatives, whether their own children or other relatives. They get no credit for this vital wo…

Of course kids in {daycare, school, the playground, riding the bus, ...} get sick (especially lots of minor viral infections) more often than kids who live in a hermetically sealed bubble, never share toys, and only ever interact with a couple of adults. Adults who never leave home also get sick less often than adults who go to school, work, etc.

But it is also the case that the human immune system remembers various kinds of foreign agents that it has seen and is more effective fighting them off later (hence immunization as an idea), and there seems to be some evidence that excessive hygiene results in allergies, autoimmune diseases, etc. See for a start https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hygiene_hypothesis

It is pretty unfortunate if parents can’t afford to keep their kids home for a week or two if they get seriously sick, though.

Re: YC Bio

#59
There needs to be more of a narrowing of the gap between biology and tech. I feel like right now the giants in both fields are still very much experts of their own biology or technology domains.

The perspective one takes on the biological system in question is vastly different depending on where you are coming from. Biologist understands bigger picture ideas about the system and can narrow down potential solutions. Tech injects more rigor and organization into how data is collected and analyzed. The skills are very complementary.

I am optimistic because I am seeing more people coming up in the field who are trying to do both molecular biology and data science.

Re: YC Bio

#60
post #34

Awesome! We've been supporting start up bio companies by offering them a fair pricing on equipment, supplies and chemicals. I think we've sold to every YC bio company except Ginkgo (doh!). There's a huge problem in non-transparent pricing for products. For those outside the industry it's like buying used cars, dealing with sales reps and everything is a quote. Researchers are at a huge informational disadvantage when…

Don't forget eBay! If you're willing to do some simple repairs, you can save a ton of money when revving up a new lab.
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