Just to get a sense of the track record here, Signal Protocol powers: * Facebook/WhatsApp * Google/Allo * Microsoft/Skype * Signal Signal is also the basis for the protocols for Wire (Proteus) and Matrix (Olm).
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Signal partners with Microsoft to bring end-to-end encryption to Skype
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Re: Signal partners with Microsoft to bring end-to-end encryption to Skype
#52Earlier quoted context omitted.
The OTF is specifically a (non-secret) front for Radio Free Asia, whose mission is to work in other countries against their NSA equivalents. The best thing the OTF can do is to fund actually honestly secure crypto, because if there's a hidden weakness the NSA can use, there's too much of a risk that one of the countries Radio Free Asia is trying to work against is going to find it. (Yes, technically, a keyed "backdoo…
whose mission is to work in other countries against their NSA equivalents. That's not really a sensible way to describe either their officially stated or inferred mission.
Maybe s/against their NSA equivalents/against government oppression/ would be more accurate - partly because that's what their mission actually is, partly because in theory the NSA isn't an agent of government oppression in the US. (But that's what the worry about NSA funding Signal is about.)
Re: Signal partners with Microsoft to bring end-to-end encryption to Skype
#53Earlier quoted context omitted.
Not the version I use for work. If you close the conversation, the history is gone, unless you fancy digging it up in Outlook, which of course you don't, because the way it is stored there is terrible.
Just a guess, but you may be using Skype for Business, which is a completely different product with just a similarity in name.
Re: Signal partners with Microsoft to bring end-to-end encryption to Skype
#54Ugh, people are still using Skype?
Still looking for something that is free, does (persistent) group chat, voice calls, file sharing, and group voice calls. Bonus if it shares screen.
Have tried various alternatives but actually not yet found anything that works as good as skype, despite having terrible UX. The sound quality is second to none and file sharing etc usually "just works".
Re: Signal partners with Microsoft to bring end-to-end encryption to Skype
#55Earlier quoted context omitted.
They can still lawful intercept. All they have to do is push a MITMed version to suspected law breakers. It's going to be closed source just like WhatsApp, so of course, it will be easy for LE to defeat while shedding crocodile tears publicly about how it's uncrackable.
How could Skype target binaries to individual users?
Auto updates to Windows users of interest (who Microsoft already track a plethora of data about making desnonymization trivial)? Many people use windows with a Microsoft account logged in making it even easier to identify.
Re: Signal partners with Microsoft to bring end-to-end encryption to Skype
#56Earlier quoted context omitted.
They can still lawful intercept. All they have to do is push a MITMed version to suspected law breakers. It's going to be closed source just like WhatsApp, so of course, it will be easy for LE to defeat while shedding crocodile tears publicly about how it's uncrackable.
How could Skype target binaries to individual users?
I think it's more likely that they just include another public key in the list of keys that are used to encrypt the symmetric key that is actually used to encrypt the call. That's just a guess though.
Re: Signal partners with Microsoft to bring end-to-end encryption to Skype
#57Just to get a sense of the track record here, Signal Protocol powers: * Facebook/WhatsApp * Google/Allo * Microsoft/Skype * Signal Signal is also the basis for the protocols for Wire (Proteus) and Matrix (Olm).
You can add OMEMO (XMPP) to the list: https://conversations.im/omemo/
Re: Signal partners with Microsoft to bring end-to-end encryption to Skype
#58Just to get a sense of the track record here, Signal Protocol powers: * Facebook/WhatsApp * Google/Allo * Microsoft/Skype * Signal Signal is also the basis for the protocols for Wire (Proteus) and Matrix (Olm).
Do you have an opinion on how Keybase handles their encrypted chat?
I believe Keybase is different because they have so much of their own key infrastructure. I haven't heard anything about them linking up with Signal.
Re: Signal partners with Microsoft to bring end-to-end encryption to Skype
#59Ugh, people are still using Skype?
Still looking for something that is free, does (persistent) group chat, voice calls, file sharing, and group voice calls. Bonus if it shares screen. Have tried various alternatives but actually not yet found anything that works as good as skype, despite having terrible UX. The sound quality is second to none and file sharing etc usually "just works".
Discord does all of this, though it's not E2E encrypted, and does it all with a fantastic UX.
Re: Signal partners with Microsoft to bring end-to-end encryption to Skype
#60While on topic of Skype: My God the latest Skype design update is abysmal, whoever come up with that horrible mess should be fired and never touch any design or management role at all. And it’s not only design but the ux is horrible too, when you switch between conversation - it does not focus on the chat box field so you can start typing right away, instead you have to click it first. This is a basic stuff for a cha…
My favorites:
- If you click on a link in a conversation, it switches the focus to that link. If you start typing again, nothing will happen until you hit the spacebar, at which point the link will activate again.
- If you use the search function, there's no apparent way to get back to the most recent messages in that conversation. The only solution I've found is to quit the app and relaunch it.