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DHS proposes to repeal Work Authorization to Spouses(H4) of H1B visa holders

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Re: DHS proposes to repeal Work Authorization to Spouses(H4) of H1B visa holders

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The E-3 visa (meant for Australians) doesn't have any work restrictions on spouses. Why isn't the administration targeting those visas/ead if this is indeed about "Hire American and buy American" ?

The quota for E-3s is 10,000/year, it gets about 30% subscribed (with new applications, renewals aren't capped), and it's providing the free and open movement of labour that the AU-US FTA requires. but also: white Australians don't trigger racist reactions & clamping down on all Australian E-3 immigrants would not be as effect of a dogwhistle.

Is it really that Americans are just not racist against Australian workers , but are racist towards brown people on work visas?

Or could it be something else?

Maybe Americans don't tend to see their whole IT and Dev departments being filled with Australians, who are NOT willing to work in high COL areas on $60k year, share apartments and a car among 6 adults, and work 60 hours a week since the money they're saving won't buy them squat once home in Australia.

This is not true for Indians and others from low wage nations.

Most Americans aren't stupid. They know that businesses here use these visas to push down wages and working conditions. Considering this, I think Americans have been pretty damn friendly to most foreign workers for quite some time.

But eventually, even the most friendly of societies is going to say enough is enough.

Re: DHS proposes to repeal Work Authorization to Spouses(H4) of H1B visa holders

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For me as a European this is really simple: foreigners are not welcome in the US so I won't bother the US with my presence. If I'm going to be selfish: the US establishing itself as a politically unstable and inconsistent country means more opportunities closer to where I live. More talent staying in Europe, more talent attracted to Europe. If I were American I would worry about important talent pools now finding mor…

Definitely, but there is something about western life that attracts people, too.

I assure you that Europe and Australia are quite western.

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America's government is as cruel as it can possibly be lately. This is just punitive and disgusting.

It is both punitive and disgusting, and it benefits no one.

Except for the US citizens who now might have a job or even a bit of wage growth after 30 years of non-stop immigration from mostly low wage countries, with the ensuing wage arbitrage used by US businesses.

Re: DHS proposes to repeal Work Authorization to Spouses(H4) of H1B visa holders

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Oh man, I went through the H1B/H4 in 2010 and my wife was unable to work. That was a pain in the ass...

This will effect the really high level very high skill immigrants who tend to have highly qualified partners who might well stop their partner from taking a job in the USA.

I know of one CTO who came back to UK from SV because of pressure from his wife

Re: DHS proposes to repeal Work Authorization to Spouses(H4) of H1B visa holders

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The quota for E-3s is 10,000/year, it gets about 30% subscribed (with new applications, renewals aren't capped), and it's providing the free and open movement of labour that the AU-US FTA requires. but also: white Australians don't trigger racist reactions & clamping down on all Australian E-3 immigrants would not be as effect of a dogwhistle.

Is it really that Americans are just not racist against Australian workers , but are racist towards brown people on work visas? Or could it be something else? Maybe Americans don't tend to see their whole IT and Dev departments being filled with Australians, who are NOT willing to work in high COL areas on $60k year, share apartments and a car among 6 adults, and work 60 hours a week since the money they're saving wo…

> Is it really that Americans are just not racist against Australian workers , but are racist towards brown people on work visas?

The dogwhistle is signaling to racists exactly this: that removing the ability for spouses on H4 visas to get EAD will reduce immigration from non-white countries. So's your comment.

Re: DHS proposes to repeal Work Authorization to Spouses(H4) of H1B visa holders

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The merit-based proposal that I've seen last time around had very high bars; much higher than Canada, say. I would dare say that most H1Bs would be worse off under it, in that they wouldn't be able to secure the visa at all.

So you are suggesting some of H1B slots will stay empty? If they're not, what's the problem? The best performers still got their visas, and USA got the top talent.

No, the best performers couldn't get a visa or had to leave the country, because of the cheap Asian imports, who overrun the system. With the proposed min. salary this would have helped a bit, but the numbers are still too high so that many high performers have to work remote. Which hurts the US economy because their workforce will not learn anything from the high performers.

Now with the retracted spouse rule you again benefits Asian visas because their spouses usually don't work. In contrary to Europeans.

Re: DHS proposes to repeal Work Authorization to Spouses(H4) of H1B visa holders

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Definitely, but there is something about western life that attracts people, too.

I assure you that Europe and Australia are quite western.

Even these are tightening down on immigration.

Re: DHS proposes to repeal Work Authorization to Spouses(H4) of H1B visa holders

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The quota for E-3s is 10,000/year, it gets about 30% subscribed (with new applications, renewals aren't capped), and it's providing the free and open movement of labour that the AU-US FTA requires. but also: white Australians don't trigger racist reactions & clamping down on all Australian E-3 immigrants would not be as effect of a dogwhistle.

Is it really that Americans are just not racist against Australian workers , but are racist towards brown people on work visas? Or could it be something else? Maybe Americans don't tend to see their whole IT and Dev departments being filled with Australians, who are NOT willing to work in high COL areas on $60k year, share apartments and a car among 6 adults, and work 60 hours a week since the money they're saving wo…

Wow! You don't hold back on the stereotypes do you? Practically none of the people I know do this. Infact they tend to do better wage/house wise than the general population if you take a look at the data. By no restriction of spouses on E3, it allows a person to do any job including being a Walmart cashier, hairdresser anything like that - which generally tend to be lower paying jobs - even less than 60k. There are people on h4 ead making more than 120k+. So it's not even about low wages as well. If you take a look at all the decisions taken on immigration over the past year (Muslim country ban, GC lottery and chain migration policy potential changes, extensive rfe on applications)it looks like an attempt to make immigration from non-"Western" countries tougher - which is perfectly fine. It just shouldn't be packaged as something else.

Re: DHS proposes to repeal Work Authorization to Spouses(H4) of H1B visa holders

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Well, just in case you might need this soon ... Switzerland ist beautiful! https://www.jobs.ch/en/vacancies/information-technology-tele...

If you can speak German that is ...

While speaking either German, French or Italian certainly helps english is more than enough in most jobs. In IT most stuff we read / discuss online is in english anyway.

Re: DHS proposes to repeal Work Authorization to Spouses(H4) of H1B visa holders

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This is a really cruel move. It honestly only affects a small population of spouses from Indian and Chinese immigrants who have to wait a long time for their green card application to go through (due to per country quotas). The reason why spouses of H1-B immigrants can't find jobs on their own, even when qualified, is because of H1 quotas which fill on the first day of application - and, if they aren't lucky to get i…

Let’s get something straight: H1B is not an immigrant visa. It’s a temporary work visa. So the idea of “H1B Immigrants” is wrong and represents an abuse of the program. Someone who intends to immigrate ought not be using the H1B. Really there should be no path to a green card for H1Bs.. that is against the purpose of that visa. Get an EB3 if you intend to immigrate.

You are a dumb prick - and your continued participation on here shows how dang and the other mods are failing.

Racist alt-right cunt.

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