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Re: Introducing the new Snapchat

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So you prefer gimping your photo quality because you're too lazy to learn how the API works, and assume that your users are OK with this as well?

I've used some pretty recent Android devices which take 1-2 seconds to focus and capture using the actual camera, so I see where he's coming from. Done > perfect when you're trying to capture something happening RIGHT now.

Hate to break it to you, but Snapchat still struggles to focus quickly. Probably because they're using the viewfinder's built-in lower resolution to perform the focus action, which further hampers its ability to focus on an object accurately

Re: Introducing the new Snapchat

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So you prefer gimping your photo quality because you're too lazy to learn how the API works, and assume that your users are OK with this as well?

Aren't the photos on Snapchat intended to be ephemeral? I'd be totally okay with potato quality if I was sharing something quickly because Snapchat isn't a photography app. It's not as if Snapchat are a tiny company with nobody smart enough to notice there's a camera API, this is intentional. If you want to send a quality photo to a friend, there are apps for that.

"snapchat isn't a photography app"

you literally take photos and send it to people

Re: Introducing the new Snapchat

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As much as I love to hate on Snapchat, there's probably no reason to use the Camera API for high quality pictures given Snapchat's use case. And if your nudes were going to be leaked would you rather they were blurred or high-res?

as a social network whose main feature is taking photos, why wouldn't you want that to be in the best quality possible?

The main feature is not "taking photos", it's "capturing memories for quick sharing". The additional time it takes to focus/take the photo (which, judging by certain built in camera apps, could be seconds) makes or breaks the in the moment feel.

In the end, these photos are meant to be looked at for max 10s with stickers/drawings/text superimposed. You don't need a high quality shot for that.

Re: Introducing the new Snapchat

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> The new Friends page to the left of the camera... > The new Discover page to the right of the camera... This reads like the manual to an early-90s text adventure.

As strange as Snapchat's UI is versus the standard mobile OS's UI guidelines, there's no denying their unorthodox UI has been wildly successful. There's definitely things to learn from their strategy.

I don't think it has been successful for on-boarding new users. They are overwhelmed and don't know how to use the app.

Re: Introducing the new Snapchat

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I wonder why they made the video like they did. Essentially filming a filming session. Like behind the scenes styled. For a unique spin on it?

The same reason there are illustrations that appear on screen and there's music in the background. Fundamentally, it's a boring topic (we moved our menus around). So they spiced it up with some things that create interest.

Re: Introducing the new Snapchat

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Evan of Snapchat talks about “performing for your friends” as a strange “side effect” of Snapchat. But the instinct to perform is native to the Snapchat medium. I think this is a problem. I went to a concert a few weeks ago. The people beside me would stand still for 10 minutes and then someone would pull out Snapchat. The whole group would turn around, flash a smile and start dancing for the camera. 9 seconds later,…

Even if, technically, you can't do it for the likes on Snapchat, I completely agree with your point.

Re: Introducing the new Snapchat

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As strange as Snapchat's UI is versus the standard mobile OS's UI guidelines, there's no denying their unorthodox UI has been wildly successful. There's definitely things to learn from their strategy.

Really? Every friend of mine complains about the UI. Just yesterday a group of friends (early 20's) were commiserating over how nothing in Snapchat made any sense and just doing something as simple as getting to your friends list was difficult and unintuitive, requiring a couple false starts where you use the wrong swipe and end up somewhere you didn't mean to.

What if I told you that was part of the genius design? This "frustrating design" forces curiosity out of users to discover the app for themselves and encourages them to share these features with friends further augmenting the network effect. Based on which semi-hidden features get shared/used the most, Snap can A/B test faster than you'd imagine.

Re: Introducing the new Snapchat

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Android's Camera API has existed for _literally years_ to take high-quality photos and these guys are still just taking a screenshot of the viewfinder and calling it a day. It's been like this forever and Snap has refused to fix this. I have yet to come across any other app on Android that utilizes the camera this way. The photos are complete garbage. And here they are, trying to add more 'features' into an app where…

As a near daily snapchat user, and someone who has developed an Android app that use's the camera, I prefer it this way. I'm not using SnapChat to take super high quality pictures, but to share moments quickly. The WYSIWYG works well for that, and a lot of Android devices are super slow to take pictures. Dealing with Camera 1 vs Camera 2 Android APIs, and device specific issues is a mess, I don't blame them for takin…

It screws over higher-end devices though. One of the reasons I bought an LG G3 was the "laser auto focus" whatever, which actually did make it insanely fast to take an in-focus photo. It was way slower with Snapchat, and I couldn't focus on anything closer than about 3 feet.

I kind of blame Android too, as a dev I know how crappy the camera APIs can be. But as a user, it stands that only Snapchat takes crappy photos because it doesn't use the standard API, everything else works fine. (Okay actually Facebook Messenger does this too, but oddly the main Facebook app does it right).

Re: Introducing the new Snapchat

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post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So you prefer gimping your photo quality because you're too lazy to learn how the API works, and assume that your users are OK with this as well?

Aren't the photos on Snapchat intended to be ephemeral? I'd be totally okay with potato quality if I was sharing something quickly because Snapchat isn't a photography app. It's not as if Snapchat are a tiny company with nobody smart enough to notice there's a camera API, this is intentional. If you want to send a quality photo to a friend, there are apps for that.

> Aren't the photos on Snapchat intended to be ephemeral? I'd be totally okay with potato quality if I was sharing something quickly because Snapchat isn't a photography app.

This hasn't been the primary focus for years. You can now send Snaps that don't expire after a time limit, and can save your snaps to your storage or Snap's cloud storage (called "memories").

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