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Facebook users in Romania see content related to street protests reviewed
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Re: Facebook users in Romania see content related to street protests reviewed
#52Earlier quoted context omitted.
> But that's no justification for putting on masks and beating up random people. Nor is it an excuse for encouraging others to do the same. The problem is, until those in powers are not afraid that their bodies will literally be dragged through the streets, they have no incentive to not do anything they need to stay in power. And the more authoritarian the rule of those in power is, the greater the desire of those no…
Violence? Drag his body down the street? Attacking innocent people until everyone does what you say? Those groups get labelled terrorist. That is the difference between a first world country and a second or third. Some people may hate trump but they also know in a few years people will have the option of voting for someone else. When you change leaders by dragging them down a street you get the types of leaders who w…
Nope, the difference between first, second and third world is whether a country aligns to the USA block, the USSR bloc or remain unaligned and pretend to stay out of the Cold War stand-off. That Third World Non-aligned countries tended to be piss-poor, plundered failed states, and theaters for proxy wars between USA and USSR helped the confusion that the classification is of economic development. It’s not
Re: Facebook users in Romania see content related to street protests reviewed
#53Earlier quoted context omitted.
> But that's no justification for putting on masks and beating up random people. Nor is it an excuse for encouraging others to do the same. The problem is, until those in powers are not afraid that their bodies will literally be dragged through the streets, they have no incentive to not do anything they need to stay in power. And the more authoritarian the rule of those in power is, the greater the desire of those no…
The people in power have to fear losing elections. The system was specifically designed so the masses can force change without violence. Supporting terrorism to override that system is awful, regardless of how you feel about capitalism.
> The system was specifically designed so the masses can force change without violence.
Point is, you need masses. Masses that are interested in politics, and actually have the time to be interested in politics! If I would have to work two (or more) jobs to get by certainly politics were solid bottom of my priority list. Democracy needs an electorate that is interested in democracy or it will get owned by a minority who is, and then dismantled.
Re: Facebook users in Romania see content related to street protests reviewed
#54I was joking before and said that it is inevitable that Facebook, Google and Twitter will eventually sell SaaS (Silencing as a Service). But maybe it wasn't a joke after all... It is simply too tempting to not do it. They have information which the Stasis and KGBs of the past would kill for. One thing Romanian government should be careful with is not listening to protesters. That is at least one country where they ha…
> Occupy and anti-Trump protestors should study and learn how that works. You see to have effective peaceful protests, there has to be a credible threat of extreme and overwhelming violence that will follow unless the government listens. Government should be afraid of the people. This is why the Civil Rights movement was successful (To a point). On the one hand, you had MLK preaching peace, and on the other hand, you…
I’d love for those downvoting you to join in on the debate. I’m less familiar with Ghandi but what you say about Malcom X and MLK is consistent with what I know about the situation.
Re: Facebook users in Romania see content related to street protests reviewed
#55Earlier quoted context omitted.
Occupy and anti-Trump protestors should study and learn how that works. You see to have effective peaceful protests, there has to be a credible threat of extreme and overwhelming violence that will follow unless the government listens. Government should be afraid of the people. Those groups cannot begin to challenge the government with violence. What you are suggesting is much more likely to end up in an orgy of bloo…
Evolve to what? The government isn't afraid, so why would they do anything for people? People were literally bombed for wanting better worker's rights a century ago, apparently it's time for that again?
Get in government, dedicate yourself to public service. Violence is the lazy and cowardly way out. You can't beat your opponent so you beat them up.
When I say evolve, we're not the apes in 2001 anymore are we?
Re: Facebook users in Romania see content related to street protests reviewed
#56Earlier quoted context omitted.
The idea that democracy already failed and americans are already serving oligarchs is more common than you might think. It’s certainly difficult to see how anti-trump people are anti-democracy: the mechanism with which trump won is distinctly NOT democratic. To some extent, democracy (and a republic to a far greater extent) only works because of fear of violence. This was discussed heavily in the early days of the re…
But then it didn't fail because the version that was implemented started off with oligarchs we have been slowly moving in the right direction
That’s what they teach in the classrooms you faithfully attended. Gotta love the raptured eyes of the pupils, so alike those wondering about the virtues of Stalinism...
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Re: Facebook users in Romania see content related to street protests reviewed
#58Earlier quoted context omitted.
> But that's no justification for putting on masks and beating up random people. Nor is it an excuse for encouraging others to do the same. The problem is, until those in powers are not afraid that their bodies will literally be dragged through the streets, they have no incentive to not do anything they need to stay in power. And the more authoritarian the rule of those in power is, the greater the desire of those no…
Violence? Drag his body down the street? Attacking innocent people until everyone does what you say? Those groups get labelled terrorist. That is the difference between a first world country and a second or third. Some people may hate trump but they also know in a few years people will have the option of voting for someone else. When you change leaders by dragging them down a street you get the types of leaders who w…
> Violence? [...] That is the difference between a first world country and a second or third.
"Third-world" doesn't mean what you think it means. Switzerland is a third-world country.
Re: Facebook users in Romania see content related to street protests reviewed
#59Re: Facebook users in Romania see content related to street protests reviewed
#60Proof that any technology has a double use. Once is good to filter spam/fake news, but in this case the fast spreading of the news is crucial for rallying people to a cause.
and isn't it surprising that anything that is anti-EU is 'spam/fake news' and that anything that is pro-EU is 'crucial for rallying people to a cause'..
FYI this protests are not related at all with EU, this is not the first time when large protests happen with laws that favor the corrupts are attempted to be passed, laws like allowing people condemned for corruption to be able to become prime minster, changing the corruption laws so specific people can escape justice.
Again nothing related with EU, migration or whatever you are imagining