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The Mating Crisis Among Educated Women

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Re: The Mating Crisis Among Educated Women

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This problem is very evident amongst single female friends who are just out of medical residency. The ones that are married mostly met their spouses in undergrad but the others are having a lot of trouble finding men of similar education level.

Hope they're willing to settle for someone with nothing more than a Bachelor's who still outearns them 2:1, after accounting for time spent in school instead of working and debt.

Re: The Mating Crisis Among Educated Women

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This problem is very evident amongst single female friends who are just out of medical residency. The ones that are married mostly met their spouses in undergrad but the others are having a lot of trouble finding men of similar education level.

My wife is applying for residency now and it's become clear to me that American medical education just isn't fit for human consumption in general. I'm not at all surprised that your friends are having trouble with dating.

Re: The Mating Crisis Among Educated Women

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>Finding an "equal" man in your mid-thirties as a women is very hard. Finding an "equal" woman in your mid-thirties as a man who doesn't want to date down in terms of education, status, wealth, or mental health is just as difficult.

It actually should be easier. Since there are more women at this level then men.

There are more women at this level, but some (many?) of them are not interested in an equal partner.

Re: The Mating Crisis Among Educated Women

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I'm not trying to incite a flamewar here, and this will probably be downvoted to death. Well, the argument here should be: Men don't find education and accomplishment as attractive as women do - they find youth and beauty important also. Therefore, in order to attract a mate, logically women should try to attract a mate when they're younger, and try to improve the way they look. They should not be trying to get more…

>They can of course do whatever they want, but I have very little sympathy for people who recognize how reality is and don't try to act in ways that will optimize the probability of the outcome they want. Yep. I recognized that I was ugly, and I thought that this was the primary obstacle when it came to dating. I fixed that with surgery, and I was right.

It's only a matter of time before we can pay CBT psychotherapists to give us good senses of humor and easy-to-be-around personalities. We're fast converging on a future where IQ and inherited wealth will be the only two fundamental positive qualities.

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I've noticed the preferences among my male and female friends diverging over time. In college, everyone seemed to want the same thing -- a partner that was both successful and attractive. But now as we make it to our late twenties, I noticed that they "settle" differently. My female friends increasingly prefer an older guy with a great career and my male friends a younger woman who is less accomplished than they were…

>I have definitely noticed the happiest people I know, in terms of romance, found their life partner in college. Definitely. I am almost 30, and I started dating extremely late (26). I'm happy with who I'm with right now, but I envy people who met their significant others in their teens or early 20s. They were able to grow together throughout early adulthood. I had to go through it all alone. I will do everything pos…

> They were able to grow together throughout early adulthood.

That's a double-edged sword. Sometimes people grow apart.

Re: The Mating Crisis Among Educated Women

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I'm not trying to incite a flamewar here, and this will probably be downvoted to death. Well, the argument here should be: Men don't find education and accomplishment as attractive as women do - they find youth and beauty important also. Therefore, in order to attract a mate, logically women should try to attract a mate when they're younger, and try to improve the way they look. They should not be trying to get more…

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Re: The Mating Crisis Among Educated Women

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that won't expand the pool as much as you think. it widens it on the education variable, but narrowers it to men who aren't threatened by women who are more educated (and possibly higher-paid) than they are.

>men who aren't threatened by women who are more educated (and possibly higher-paid) than they are Do these people actually exist anymore? What kind of man is really going to pass on an otherwise suitable partner just because she's more educated and makes more money than him? I can't imagine a single person I know thinking something along the lines of "yeah, she's great, but she makes more money than me, it won't wor…

If I'm being honest, this would bother me at some level. Certainly not enough to pass up the opportunity, but somehow I would feel less of a man. I'm sure I would get over it quickly enough, or maybe use it as motivation to become equally educated. I do think it's great that there are so many highly educated women.

Re: The Mating Crisis Among Educated Women

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>They can of course do whatever they want, but I have very little sympathy for people who recognize how reality is and don't try to act in ways that will optimize the probability of the outcome they want. Yep. I recognized that I was ugly, and I thought that this was the primary obstacle when it came to dating. I fixed that with surgery, and I was right.

It's only a matter of time before we can pay CBT psychotherapists to give us good senses of humor and easy-to-be-around personalities. We're fast converging on a future where IQ and inherited wealth will be the only two fundamental positive qualities.

>We're fast converging on a future where IQ and inherited wealth will be the only two fundamental positive qualities.

Genome editing might take care of IQ.

Re: The Mating Crisis Among Educated Women

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>I have definitely noticed the happiest people I know, in terms of romance, found their life partner in college. Definitely. I am almost 30, and I started dating extremely late (26). I'm happy with who I'm with right now, but I envy people who met their significant others in their teens or early 20s. They were able to grow together throughout early adulthood. I had to go through it all alone. I will do everything pos…

> They were able to grow together throughout early adulthood. That's a double-edged sword. Sometimes people grow apart.

True, but better to have loved and lost, right?
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