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Fedora 27 released

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Re: Fedora 27 released

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Post by ddavis »

dualogy wrote: post #35

Major props to the Fedora project, really gotta get this off my chest as I had Yet Another "distro-hopping just still ain't worth it even in 2017" moment yesterday. Somehow I have accumulated 4 laptops still-in-running-condition currently. Every rare once in a while, on a lazy weekend or when caught with a cold, I feel I should experimentally check out other distros and/or DE/WM combos than the singular one that has…

I've used Arch Linux (with Gnome 3, i3, dwm, Xfce, Cinnamon, Mate) for 6 years now and it has (or any of the DE's/WM's have) _never_ bugged out on me (many different laptops and desktops as well). I've only once had a destroyed installation and it was completely my fault. I would actually recommend Arch Linux as a great distribution for getting real work done. I know academic research groups that use it as OS for the boxes in their labs and they've never had problems with stability or things working out the box. Fedora is a great OS, but I just don't really see it having a big leg up on everybody else.

Re: Fedora 27 released

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Post by unethical_ban »

jimmies wrote: post #40
DCKing wrote: post #33

I've switched to Fedora with version 26 (from Ubuntu and some dabbling with Manjaro) and really enjoy it. SELinux gave me a few headscratchers in the beginning but once you know how to deal with it it's great to have a distro that is both a great user experience and has some nice hardening/dont-shoot-yourself-in-the-foot features. The best thing for me about this release is better support for shared folders in Gnome…

I don't understand SELinux and I have not found a document that explains for the average Joe like me what it is for and why doesn't my qemu-libvirt work when it is enabled, which is the default. It took me two nights to figure out that SELinux prevents qemu-libvirt to read certain ROM files that I need. So after scratching my head, I just turned it off altogether. Other than that, Fedora has been really rock solid, g…

In a nutshell, SELinux controls how applications can interact with the filesystem, network, and OS.

For example, It can control whether an application can bind to a privileged network port (below 1024) or whether an app can write to areas other than its default working directory.

And it is not immediately obvious when it's causing issues, just because it's not used as strictly or at all in other distros. I was having trouble connecting to a service I started in Fedora, even though I disabled firewalld. Turns out it was SELinux.

Re: Fedora 27 released

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Post by meesterdude »

Great to see!

After spending a week trying to get various OS's to play nice on my PC, everything "just worked" in fedora. And worked well - apple polish level experience. Now, i use it over debian as my main dev VM.

It's a great OS for getting out of the way and letting you get stuff done.

Re: Fedora 27 released

#55

Post by hd4 »

jacek wrote: post #26
ufo wrote: post #22

Is Firefox 57 already out in Fedora 27, by any chance?

Yes, it is. EDIT: And CSD works! Instructions to enable it are in a video here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rz_mPVwhDg (I recommend to mute sounds).

I'm guessing this doesn't apply to those who are on KDE?

Re: Fedora 27 released

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Post by pyrophane »

The biggest change I'm waiting for is fractional scaling support for Gnome under Weyland. This is achievable under X using some combination of integer scaling and xrandr, and Ubuntu 17.04 had support for it out of the box via the gui (not sure of the underlying implementation).

Fortunately this change is expected in Gnome 3.28, which is only a few months away. Having that will mean a lot to those of us using HiDPI displays that aren't quite pixel dense enough for 200% scaling.

Re: Fedora 27 released

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Post by dijit »

unethical_ban wrote: post #52
jimmies wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't understand SELinux and I have not found a document that explains for the average Joe like me what it is for and why doesn't my qemu-libvirt work when it is enabled, which is the default. It took me two nights to figure out that SELinux prevents qemu-libvirt to read certain ROM files that I need. So after scratching my head, I just turned it off altogether. Other than that, Fedora has been really rock solid, g…

In a nutshell, SELinux controls how applications can interact with the filesystem, network, and OS. For example, It can control whether an application can bind to a privileged network port (below 1024) or whether an app can write to areas other than its default working directory. And it is not immediately obvious when it's causing issues, just because it's not used as strictly or at all in other distros. I was having…

It should be noted that there are booleans associated with selinux, the defaults have quite a few booleans that make it easy to allow commonly requested behaviour.

`getsebool -a` and `setsebool` are your friends.

Re: Fedora 27 released

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Post by chisleu »

alphadevx wrote: post #47
cverna wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wayland is the default display server since Fedora 25.

Yeah but frankly its been kinda beta, not quite "it just works" so far.

Especially for those of us with Optimus systems (shared frame buffer between intel and Nvidia graphics systems.)

Additionally, some laptops have external displays wired to Nvidia, making it impossible to use intel-only graphics with external displays.

Re: Fedora 27 released

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Post by rhodysurf »

pyrophane wrote: post #56

The biggest change I'm waiting for is fractional scaling support for Gnome under Weyland. This is achievable under X using some combination of integer scaling and xrandr, and Ubuntu 17.04 had support for it out of the box via the gui (not sure of the underlying implementation). Fortunately this change is expected in Gnome 3.28, which is only a few months away. Having that will mean a lot to those of us using HiDPI di…

It exists in Gnome 3.26 (IE Fedora 27) with an experimental flag. It works well, with the exception of some blurry text in random apps.

Re: Fedora 27 released

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Post by kevinherron »

jadbox wrote: post #50
dualogy wrote: post #35

Major props to the Fedora project, really gotta get this off my chest as I had Yet Another "distro-hopping just still ain't worth it even in 2017" moment yesterday. Somehow I have accumulated 4 laptops still-in-running-condition currently. Every rare once in a while, on a lazy weekend or when caught with a cold, I feel I should experimentally check out other distros and/or DE/WM combos than the singular one that has…

i3 with Fedora runs flawlessly for me out of the box: dnf install i3 i3status dmenu i3lock

On what version of Fedora? Wayland has been enabled by default since F25 and i3wm does not work in Wayland... nor do the Nvidia drivers last I tried it...
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