UK parliament to get binding vote on final Brexit deal

Post by danpalmer » Mon, Nov 13, 2017, 6:36 PM UTC

Tech-Noir wrote: post #39

danpalmer wrote: post #15

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> Bone-headed move by its people By a minority I'd like to clarify. 51.8% voted for it, of a 72% turnout, of an electorate that is only around 69% of the population. That works out at around 25% of the population voting for it.

> That works out at around 25% of the population voting for it. Correct, newborn babies were denied a vote. What percentage of the British population voted to Remain in the EU, out of curiosity?

Post by andy_ppp » Mon, Nov 13, 2017, 6:38 PM UTC

SllX wrote: post #30

danpalmer wrote: post #15

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> Bone-headed move by its people By a minority I'd like to clarify. 51.8% voted for it, of a 72% turnout, of an electorate that is only around 69% of the population. That works out at around 25% of the population voting for it.

This type of turnout is not uncommon in democratic states with voter turnout in the UK in particular hovering around that figure[0] since 1945. Yet they still decide laws, amend constitutions, control their military and command a domestic monopoly on sanctioned violence. By the laws and constitution[1] of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland, the people voted for Brexit. [0] http://www.ukpolitical…

Post by gejjaxxita » Mon, Nov 13, 2017, 6:41 PM UTC

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mbroncano wrote: post #38

It saddens me to no extent witnessing a formerly great country falling deep in the abyss of irrelevance, propelled and fueled by a remarkable societal and intellectual isolationism improper in this time and age. Not to mention the implicit bigotry, racism and xenophobia of the whole Brexit deal. Interesting times indeed. In a sense, social media et al. are fulfilling the place that widespread newspapers first, and la…

>Not to mention the implicit bigotry, racism and xenophobia of the whole Brexit deal explain?

Post by johannes1234321 » Mon, Nov 13, 2017, 6:44 PM UTC

sverige wrote: post #28

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It's interesting because it will allow debate, something that has been in very short supply during this whole process. The British people deserve to know what is going to happen to them in 2019, even if it's irreversible. The current government has made it quite clear they don't agree with that, so they'll have to be forced into it.

> It's interesting because it will allow debate, something that has been in very short supply during this whole process. Are you referring to Parliamentary debate about whether some deal can be cut with the EU? I recall a lot of public debate before the vote itself, and a lot since, if that's what you're referring to.

Post by frandroid » Mon, Nov 13, 2017, 6:48 PM UTC

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Not just that, but Davis confirmed no deal == no vote. Indeed, it's difficult to see how they could have a sensible vote in the absence of a deal to vote on, but since this is the most likely outcome as we stand (the UK Govt have no solution to the Irish border issue, and there's a substantial rebellion in the Tory party against paying the EU any money) then the most likely outcome is still no vote :(

Actually, the UK government has a very good solution to the Irish border issue, which the Irish are in favour of. It is the EU that will not allow it.