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Re: GCP arrives in India with launch of Mumbai region

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Post by pyvpx »

jaisal wrote: post #35
numbsafari wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Oh, give me a break... where did Kubernetes come from? Whose LB solution relies on DNS and whose uses BGP/ECMP for regional routing and failover? Who offered HIPPA compliance without dedicated hosts and stupid markups first? Who created BigQuery? Look, both Google and AWS have areas where each excels over the other, but to say that Google isn’t innovating is to say you are basically ignorant of their offering.

NLB DynamoDB EMR even HIPAA without dedicated was on AWS first ... whatever AWS does Google is trying to do better. Granted Kubernetes was google product but what was so innovative about it when Docker and Linux container was already there for a long time ... and now AWS has ECS

kubernetes is a scheduler and orchestrator. something Docker (still?) hasn't gotten right.

Re: GCP arrives in India with launch of Mumbai region

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Post by JumpCrisscross »

lmnop7 wrote: post #26
JumpCrisscross wrote: post #20

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Source?

Enron -- Dabhol Power Company

>> Tamilnadu does lead the country with power generation but Maharashtra comes close second with better power distribution

As of November 2015, Maharashtra had 38 Gigawatts of generation to Tamil Nadu's 23 [1]. Maharashtra and Gujarat jointly produce a quarter of India's 100 GW; Tamil Nadu 8%.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/States_of_India_by_installed_p...

Re: GCP arrives in India with launch of Mumbai region

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Post by [deleted] »

CydeWeys wrote: post #36
alpb wrote: post #28

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Why do you need a California region? There’s already a west coast datacenter in Oregon. I’m guessing the latency differences would be likely negligible. That said there's plans for a Los Angeles region here: https://cloud.google.com/about/locations/ (Disclaimer: I am a Google employee, but totally not working on datacenter stuff.)

The Pacific northwest has all of that delicious, cheap, reliable, non-polluting hydroelectric power. It's really a logical location for regional data centers, and Google is far from the only company making that same decision. I agree with you, I'm not seeing the big draw of California, especially given the much more expensive electricity plus greater earthquake risk.

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Re: GCP arrives in India with launch of Mumbai region

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Post by a012 »

lovelearning wrote: post #34
shubhamjain wrote: post #32

> With the opening of this Mumbai region, Indian customers are now able to buy these services directly in Indian rupees. Somewhat related: I was forced to switch to GCP for hosting my static website because of lack of payment options. AWS doesn't allow you to prepay. The only way to settle your dues is using a credit card. My international debit card usually works everywhere but it didn't in case of AWS. I never felt…

"I never felt the need to get a credit card" IMO, credit cards are less damaging to you in case of misuse. If your debit card is stolen or its details are stolen from websites, you are at risk of losing your money directly from your bank account and recovering it may not be easy. You're at the mercy of the bank to compensate you, and most banks insist on formalities such as filing a police complaint. Good luck with t…

Credit cards fraud protection is varied country by country. I've been fucked by stolen info (just card number) and lost around $300. Disputed to my bank and in their generalize respond is "fuck you pay me". I never trust any banks anymore, I'll avoid banking at all if possible.

Re: GCP arrives in India with launch of Mumbai region

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Post by skj »

dheera wrote: post #6
selanki wrote: post #5

Google is following AWS ,. Microsoft is also following AWS . Which is not necessarily bad but doesn’t speak much of their innovation . The only play they have against AWS is fear mongering about vendor lock-in which is highly debatable anyways .

Vendor lock-in? That's a problem with Google much more so than Amazon.

Google is quickly moving to containerized solutions for almost everything you might want to deploy.

Avoiding lock-in, where reasonable (you're never going to be able to carry out something like big query as far as I can tell, and I don't work on those products or have special knowledge there) is something close to our hearts and is an important topic during design discussions of new products.

(I work for Google, on cloud, on the containerized developer workflow)

Re: GCP arrives in India with launch of Mumbai region

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Post by skj »

sudhirj wrote: post #29
tyingq wrote: post #10

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Depends on what specific services you use. If you have a notable amount of data, they all have pretty hard lock in.

For any multi instance or multi datacenter managed distributed service, lock in is to be expected - the companies build and provide the service tightly coupled with their infrastructure and tech, so the effectively the companies are the service. The lock in follows from there. See DynamoDB, Bigtable, Spanner, SQS, S3 etc.

With s3, at least, Google Cloud Storage can be used as a drop in replacement in most scenarios. The object model is the same, and it even supports the same API.

Re: GCP arrives in India with launch of Mumbai region

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Post by numbsafari »

jaisal wrote: post #35
numbsafari wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Oh, give me a break... where did Kubernetes come from? Whose LB solution relies on DNS and whose uses BGP/ECMP for regional routing and failover? Who offered HIPPA compliance without dedicated hosts and stupid markups first? Who created BigQuery? Look, both Google and AWS have areas where each excels over the other, but to say that Google isn’t innovating is to say you are basically ignorant of their offering.

NLB DynamoDB EMR even HIPAA without dedicated was on AWS first ... whatever AWS does Google is trying to do better. Granted Kubernetes was google product but what was so innovative about it when Docker and Linux container was already there for a long time ... and now AWS has ECS

You are factually incorrect about HIPPA and dedicated hosts. Amazon only switched to the non-dedicated approach this year some time. Google has been that way for at least two (if not longer).

EMR is basically hosted Hadoop, which is an open source implementation of a system Google created and made famous.

Docker is based on cgroups, which was largely contributed by Google engineers. And anyone deploying docker for distributed systems will tell you that you need some kind of scheduler/orchestrator.

Amazon excels at packaging and bundling the work of others, and provides a fairly robust enterprise management layer on top of it. CloudFormation, for example, is much better than GCP’s Deployment Manager. Google is quickly catching up in the enterprise management space as well, as they take on larger customers who demand these abilities, but I still feel like AWS has a bit more capability there.

You probably should have listed Lambda, which was a nice idea out of AMZN.

Re: GCP arrives in India with launch of Mumbai region

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Post by gruez »

a012 wrote: post #55
lovelearning wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"I never felt the need to get a credit card" IMO, credit cards are less damaging to you in case of misuse. If your debit card is stolen or its details are stolen from websites, you are at risk of losing your money directly from your bank account and recovering it may not be easy. You're at the mercy of the bank to compensate you, and most banks insist on formalities such as filing a police complaint. Good luck with t…

Credit cards fraud protection is varied country by country. I've been fucked by stolen info (just card number) and lost around $300. Disputed to my bank and in their generalize respond is "fuck you pay me". I never trust any banks anymore, I'll avoid banking at all if possible.

What jurisdiction is this? Because this is definitely not the protocol in the US
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