Flattr 2.0 launches to the public • Hacker News Board

Re: Flattr 2.0 launches to the public

#51

Post by falcolas » Thu, Oct 26, 2017, 1:48 PM UTC

Any word on their content limitations? With the recent kerfluffel between Patreon and adult content creators, is this an alternative? I'm going to guess not, given the association with Visa and MC only.

... Had to dig - nope:

> Pornographic or highly suggestive content or images that violate the applicable laws.

Their "Types of websites not permitted" list is fairly long: https://flattr.com/files/terms.pdf

Re: Flattr 2.0 launches to the public

#52

Post by jyrkesh » Thu, Oct 26, 2017, 1:48 PM UTC

This might seem super nitpicky (I apologize in advance), but the domain and blog UX needs a little fixing. My 30 second experience:

- skim blog, yeah, looks good, heard of this before, hope they're successful, , whatever

- click logo to try and get to main site

- sent to blog.flattr.net instead

- go to address bar, remove "blog."

- 404

- ugh, maybe they're one of those that only left "www." to go their root page

- add "www."

- 404

- Google "flattr"

- it's "flattr.com"

ugh...

Re: Flattr 2.0 launches to the public

#53

Post by VikingCoder » Thu, Oct 26, 2017, 1:50 PM UTC

stevenj wrote: post #28

Some things to consider about Flattr: you have to install a web browser extension; the extension requires access to your full browsing history; it was bought by the parent company of Adblock Plus, Eyeo.

You didn't used to have to have a browser extension, not for sites that participated. So for instance, I had flatr configured to follow all of my YouTube Likes...

Re: Flattr 2.0 launches to the public

#54

Post by [deleted] » Thu, Oct 26, 2017, 1:50 PM UTC

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Re: Flattr 2.0 launches to the public

#55

Post by VickBear » Thu, Oct 26, 2017, 1:51 PM UTC

jyrkesh wrote: post #52

This might seem super nitpicky (I apologize in advance), but the domain and blog UX needs a little fixing. My 30 second experience: - skim blog, yeah, looks good, heard of this before, hope they're successful, , whatever - click logo to try and get to main site - sent to blog.flattr.net instead - go to address bar, remove "blog." - 404 - ugh, maybe they're one of those that only left "www." to go their root page - ad…

For me, I have no idea what Flattr is and trying to read through their .com site gives me no insight really. I see it is supposed to be something that supports content creators and or creatives on the internet, but how and what?

Re: Flattr 2.0 launches to the public

#56

Post by VickBear » Thu, Oct 26, 2017, 1:51 PM UTC

What is it with so many new sites and companies give such a vague description of what they do. I am literally clueless.

Re: Flattr 2.0 launches to the public

#57

Post by vog » Thu, Oct 26, 2017, 1:54 PM UTC

blfr wrote: post #17

codewithcheese wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They charge advertisers to unblock ads. So actually you will see ads as long as Adblock Plus is making money. They are generally seen as untrustworthy compared to something totally free like uBlock Origin.

So actually you will see ads as long as Adblock Plus is making money. It's literally one checkbox to disable the whitelisted ("non-intrusive") ads.

As long as that setting is opt-out and not opt-in, they deserve all the criticism they get for this shady business model.

Re: Flattr 2.0 launches to the public

#58

Post by ttoinou » Thu, Oct 26, 2017, 1:55 PM UTC

So, does monthly payment works now ? I tried flattr years ago and it didn't even do it, that's a pretty obvious feature...

Re: Flattr 2.0 launches to the public

#59

Post by endijs » Thu, Oct 26, 2017, 1:56 PM UTC

vog wrote: post #37

endijs wrote: post #33

I was big fan of original Flattr, that's why i was excited for 2.0 too. However that "extension" setup is something that still keeps me in evaluation phase, rather than 100% in. I inspected extension (not 100% of it, but a bit of code, storage, xhr calls). Some findings: * They use whitelist (visible in source) of sites, thus they do not record activity on all sites, but just the ones in whitelist. * You can individu…

I never understood why they decided to coorperate with the AdBlock Plus creators. From a technology point of view, that might have been a gain for them. But does this outweigh the loss of the "trust in advance" that they would otherwise receive? Also, what's about the risk of being dragged into bad reputation? (Which might happen as soon as AdBlock Plus gets bad media coverage, once again.)

As Flattr 1.0 did not get any traction, my guess is that they went with AdBlock Plus creators (Eyeo) just because Flattr run out of cash and Eyeo was the one who offered to invest and later on to buy out. Simple math. Even though I'm not fan of what Eyeo have done in the past, fact that old team was able to continue to work on this, makes me hopeful, that this will not turn out to be some sort of malicious or grey area project. But time will tell.

Re: Flattr 2.0 launches to the public

#60

Post by jasode » Thu, Oct 26, 2017, 1:56 PM UTC

Somebody correct me if I'm wrong but I thought using Flattr is not as easy on mobile phones. It requires using a separate browser app. (E.g. the Adblock browser app for Android). Since ~99% of smartphone users won't using anything but the default iPhone Safari or Android Chrome browser, this leaves out most audiences[1] that Flattr can't reach.

[1] https://www.google.com/search?q=majority+browse+web+with+mob...