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Re: Soylent can no longer ship to Canada

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Post by seiferteric »

3pt14159 wrote: post #46
mful wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The 30% cap on calories from fat is pretty ridiculous in my view. Even if you don't buy into the idea that fat is healthful, there is plenty of science that indicates it is, and so at least CIFA should not regulate fat content in this way. Sidenote: I don't drink Soylent and have no idea if it fails the fat content. I'm in the "Soylent is not healthful" camp, if it matters.

Not to split hairs, but the cap is 35% unless you want to replace all meals. I know we're all avant guard around here, but until fairly recently it wasn't accepted knowledge that fat wasn't as bad for you as first thought. It's understandable that regulations would take time to adjust.

But the "fat is bad" idea is fairly recent as well, really only since the 70s.

Re: Soylent can no longer ship to Canada

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Post by [deleted] »

ovao wrote: post #21
retox wrote: post #18

Pure nanny state behavior, this is people in power wanting to control what their subjects are allowed to do because they think they know best. Smaller government can't come soon enough.

Regulation of food products to some degree is critical to help prevent contamination and illness. In this case, Canada's regulations appear to be simply outdated and, perhaps, overly draconian.

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Re: Soylent can no longer ship to Canada

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Post by pumpaction »

simonsarris wrote: post #47

Serious questions for people that drink this stuff: My breakfast is often Siggi's 4% skyr (thick yogurt): http://siggisdairy.com/product/plain-whole-milk-24oz/ Plus Organic valley heavy cream: https://www.organicvalley.coop/products/cream/ Ususally about 300g + 100g, then sometimes some granola (oats, almonds, sometimes honey), for body. Soylent is: * 37g carb * 21g fats * 20g protein What I'm eating is much healthie…

I suspect that long-term acolytes of Soylent are victims of marketing, rather than having made rational nutritional choices. Their product does seem to be targeted toward a particular psychological niche.

Re: Soylent can no longer ship to Canada

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Post by ThrowawayR2 »

simonsarris wrote: post #47

Serious questions for people that drink this stuff: My breakfast is often Siggi's 4% skyr (thick yogurt): http://siggisdairy.com/product/plain-whole-milk-24oz/ Plus Organic valley heavy cream: https://www.organicvalley.coop/products/cream/ Ususally about 300g + 100g, then sometimes some granola (oats, almonds, sometimes honey), for body. Soylent is: * 37g carb * 21g fats * 20g protein What I'm eating is much healthie…

> Why not just mix skyr and heavy cream if that's the kind of meal you want?

Requires refrigeration, not shelf stable, contains lactose, which not everyone can tolerate, contains cholesterol, less convenient than bottles, not vegan, for those who it matters to, and more expensive than the equivalent amount of Soylent to top it all off. And that's without even trying particularly hard to think of reasons.

And, for the record, I don't even drink Soylent anymore.

Re: Soylent can no longer ship to Canada

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Post by ajeet_dhaliwal »

pmarreck wrote: post #8
raquo wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Fat calories would be one reason. 47% in soylent vs 35% max allowed. Their announcement mentions that it failed more than one requirement, so there must be something else in addition to this.

These regulations are outdated. The push against fat calories and towards carbohydrates was largely motivated by the sugar industry, see: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=oLtQLDptI1g In addition to this, fat calories are more “filling” than carbohydrate calories. Something useful for a meal replacement (assuming unsaturated/“healthy” fats) I hope Soylent sticks to their guns with the best knowledge available, and I hope…

I used to live in Canada, now back in UK. Canadians won’t push for reforms. They’ll accept it. Incredibly docile population. Also they have more pressing issues, online purchases from outside Canada are charged duty if the purchase is over CDN $20. In the US the duties apply only after USD $800. See: http://www.cbc.ca/news/business/duty-free-limit-america-1.34... There are countless other ‘controls’ of this sort in place across a range of issues.

Re: Soylent can no longer ship to Canada

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Post by simonsarris »

ThrowawayR2 wrote: post #54
simonsarris wrote: post #47

Serious questions for people that drink this stuff: My breakfast is often Siggi's 4% skyr (thick yogurt): http://siggisdairy.com/product/plain-whole-milk-24oz/ Plus Organic valley heavy cream: https://www.organicvalley.coop/products/cream/ Ususally about 300g + 100g, then sometimes some granola (oats, almonds, sometimes honey), for body. Soylent is: * 37g carb * 21g fats * 20g protein What I'm eating is much healthie…

> Why not just mix skyr and heavy cream if that's the kind of meal you want? Requires refrigeration, not shelf stable, contains lactose, which not everyone can tolerate, contains cholesterol, less convenient than bottles, not vegan, for those who it matters to, and more expensive than the equivalent amount of Soylent to top it all off. And that's without even trying particularly hard to think of reasons. And, for the…

I didn't know anyone was afraid of dietary cholesterol in 2017. Remember, I'm advocating:

> Pasteurized Whole Milk, Pasteurized Cream, Live Active Cultures

Over:

> Filtered water, soy protein isolate, maltodextrin, high oleic sunflower oil, isomaltulose, canola oil, rice starch, oat fiber, isomaltooligosaccharide, soy lecithin, potassium chloride, calcium phosphate, magnesium phosphate, natural & artificial flavors, dipotassium phosphate, salt, choline chloride, gellan gum, sodium ascorbate, dl-alpha-tocopheryl acetate, ferrous gluconate, zinc sulfate, d-calcium pantothenate, niacinamide, sucralose, thiamine hydrochloride, copper gluconate, manganese sulfate, pyridoxine hydrochloride, vitamin a palmitate, riboflavin, chromium chloride, biotin, folic acid, sodium molybdate, sodium selenite, phytonadione, potassium iodide, vitamin b12, vitamin d. contains: soy

I guess it is less convenient.

> more expensive than the equivalent amount of Soylent to top it all off

Somehow I don't think penny pinchers are Soylent's target audience, but maybe I'm wrong.

Re: Soylent can no longer ship to Canada

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Post by grzm »

simonsarris wrote: post #56
ThrowawayR2 wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Why not just mix skyr and heavy cream if that's the kind of meal you want? Requires refrigeration, not shelf stable, contains lactose, which not everyone can tolerate, contains cholesterol, less convenient than bottles, not vegan, for those who it matters to, and more expensive than the equivalent amount of Soylent to top it all off. And that's without even trying particularly hard to think of reasons. And, for the…

I didn't know anyone was afraid of dietary cholesterol in 2017. Remember, I'm advocating: > Pasteurized Whole Milk, Pasteurized Cream, Live Active Cultures Over: > Filtered water, soy protein isolate, maltodextrin, high oleic sunflower oil, isomaltulose, canola oil, rice starch, oat fiber, isomaltooligosaccharide, soy lecithin, potassium chloride, calcium phosphate, magnesium phosphate, natural & artificial flavors,…

> I copied and pasted from their website, they capitalized everything, not me

Feel free to lowercase it yourself. HN readers will appreciate it!

Re: Soylent can no longer ship to Canada

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Post by always_good »

simonsarris wrote: post #47

Serious questions for people that drink this stuff: My breakfast is often Siggi's 4% skyr (thick yogurt): http://siggisdairy.com/product/plain-whole-milk-24oz/ Plus Organic valley heavy cream: https://www.organicvalley.coop/products/cream/ Ususally about 300g + 100g, then sometimes some granola (oats, almonds, sometimes honey), for body. Soylent is: * 37g carb * 21g fats * 20g protein What I'm eating is much healthie…

Why did you write that comment instead of doing 20 pushups and burpees? Granola isn't that great for you either, why not just eat raw oats? Best to mix it with water so that you can hopefully ween off your dairy addiction.

-- Just seems like empty one-upmanship on the internet.

Re: Soylent can no longer ship to Canada

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Post by nether »

colejohnson66 wrote: post #27
nether wrote: post #13

Huel (another powdered food) is running into this. They just started shipping to the US, but are delayed with Canada because they say the regulations there are "much more stringent." Canada outright banned rBGH.

But isn’t there “no significant difference between cows treated with rBGH and not”?

So they say. But the EU and Japan also banned it. I don't know who's right.

Re: Soylent can no longer ship to Canada

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Post by simonsarris »

grzm wrote: post #57
simonsarris wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I didn't know anyone was afraid of dietary cholesterol in 2017. Remember, I'm advocating: > Pasteurized Whole Milk, Pasteurized Cream, Live Active Cultures Over: > Filtered water, soy protein isolate, maltodextrin, high oleic sunflower oil, isomaltulose, canola oil, rice starch, oat fiber, isomaltooligosaccharide, soy lecithin, potassium chloride, calcium phosphate, magnesium phosphate, natural & artificial flavors,…

> I copied and pasted from their website, they capitalized everything, not me Feel free to lowercase it yourself. HN readers will appreciate it!

Ah you're right. Sublime text can do it in a second anyway.
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