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Re: Linux on Samsung Galaxy smartphones

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Tizen on smartwatch is pretty awesome. Imho its miles ahead of the other watch OSes

I guess you never bother to actually program on it. Tizen already went through these reboots: 1 - Replaced Meego SDK with Bada OS SDK 2 - Replaced Bada OS SDK with EFL + C++ SDK 3 - Dropped C++ SDK and replaced a new pure C API alongside EFL 4 - Currently adopting .NET Core + Xamarin.Forms Then there is the whole issue of code quality. https://what.thedailywtf.com/topic/15001/enlightened https://www.theregister.co.uk…

I have, it has is quirks.

With that said, use their smartwatches. The UI is so much better than the competition it's not even funny.

And then you have Samsung pay card emulation magic....

Re: Linux on Samsung Galaxy smartphones

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It's quite interesting that with the power of today's mobile devices (multicore 1GHz+ CPUs, GPUs, 2Gb+ RAM) we still don't have a standardized interface to plug them into desktop peripherals and launch a desktop OS/GUI. One would thing that such an universal interface would quickly become a standard offering in airports, hotels, libraries, conferences, etc.

USB-C is that standard interface - when working at my desk I can plug a single USB-C cable into my laptop and it gains two monitors, external audio, keyboard, mouse, webcam, and all the other things you'd expect.

Apple did that with Thunderbolt quite some time ago.

Re: Linux on Samsung Galaxy smartphones

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This is amazing.

The reason we have high quality free software for desktops is that you can easily install anything you want on your laptops and PC's.

Significance of this is that it allows free software stacks to be built for phones.

Kudos to Samsung for such move. Let's hope other phone makers also open up the phones.

Re: Linux on Samsung Galaxy smartphones

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> Linux on Galaxy allows the latest Samsung Galaxy smartphone users to run their preferred Linux distribution on their smartphones utilizing the same Linux kernel that powers the Android OS to ensure the best possible performance. (emphasis mine)

I knew there was a catch somewhere. I seriously doubt there's a technical reason why older Galaxy models can't support running Linux as well. I don't understand why it's so difficult for Android manufacturers to allow users to install whatever they want–I bought my phone, now let me install what I want. Sure, void the warrant or refuse to support it, but don't get in my way.

Re: Linux on Samsung Galaxy smartphones

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Samsung press release: http://www.samsungmobilepress.com/stories/samsung-dex's-expa...

> At Samsung, we continuously ask ourselves what else is possible, and what else we can do to bring a better experience for our users.

Here's a tip: don't mess with my scrolling.

Re: Linux on Samsung Galaxy smartphones

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Tizen on smartwatch is pretty awesome. Imho its miles ahead of the other watch OSes

I guess you never bother to actually program on it. Tizen already went through these reboots: 1 - Replaced Meego SDK with Bada OS SDK 2 - Replaced Bada OS SDK with EFL + C++ SDK 3 - Dropped C++ SDK and replaced a new pure C API alongside EFL 4 - Currently adopting .NET Core + Xamarin.Forms Then there is the whole issue of code quality. https://what.thedailywtf.com/topic/15001/enlightened https://www.theregister.co.uk…

I never understood why Samsung didn't stick with Qt for Tizen. Was it because it was owned by Nokia back then?

Everything they've tried to do on the UI layer is something I wouldn't touch with an eleven-foot pole.

Re: Linux on Samsung Galaxy smartphones

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> Linux on Galaxy allows the latest Samsung Galaxy smartphone users to run their preferred Linux distribution on their smartphones utilizing the same Linux kernel that powers the Android OS to ensure the best possible performance. (emphasis mine) I knew there was a catch somewhere. I seriously doubt there's a technical reason why older Galaxy models can't support running Linux as well. I don't understand why it's so…

We're all used to having desktop computers with generic x86 compatible processors and highly standardized internal interfaces and components, and compiling our software and installing it on any x86 computer we want.

Smartphones with ARM SOCs aren't like that because they aren't just a CPU, they also include a crapload of additional system components. Even SOCs like the Snapdragon within a specific model will offer many variations to the manufacturers. Outside the SOC itself, phone hardware is far less standardized than on a PC. You can't compile your Linux distro for ARM then install it on any smartphone, the kernel needs to be tailored to the specific phone. That's why even though unlocked Android phones are around it really takes the manufacturer themselves to be able to do something like this because only they have the detailed understanding of the platform and the resources. Otherwise, other people would be doing it.

Re: Linux on Samsung Galaxy smartphones

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USB-C is that standard interface - when working at my desk I can plug a single USB-C cable into my laptop and it gains two monitors, external audio, keyboard, mouse, webcam, and all the other things you'd expect.

Apple did that with Thunderbolt quite some time ago.

Thunderbolt is developed by Intel.

As for Apple products, it's available on the desktop (using Intel CPU's/chipsets) but not compatible with their iOS devices. So it's far from "universal" given that iOS devices are an overwhelming majority of their sales.

My intuition is that USB-C standards will eventually replace most Thunderbolt interfaces (e.g. for eGPUs etc.)

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