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China Blocks WhatsApp

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Re: China Blocks WhatsApp

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Post by NedIsakoff »

yuncun wrote: post #18
rubenbe wrote: post #13

This is getting really strict. I went to China around 2012: * Facebook was already blocked * Google and wikipedia magically stopped working when you searched for "tiananmen" * Gmail worked fine I returned in early 2017, oh god what a change: * Don't even think about Facebook * Ironically Facebook messenger worked until my session expired * No gmail, google at all (don't remember about Wikipedia) * Whatsapp worked fin…

>* Google and wikipedia magically stopped working when you searched for "tiananmen" Hmm I find this hard to believe because the massacre is known as the June Fourth Incident. "tiananmen" is the location, and blocking that would seem a bit strange for people trying to find directions, etc.

You're looking for the wrong thing. Its the May 35th Incident now comrade ;p

Re: China Blocks WhatsApp

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Post by [deleted] »

EGreg wrote: post #42
gruez wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>What if people used a decentralized service, that worked over https? that sounds great until you realize that most people don't run tls servers on their computers/phones. so running one would immediately raise suspicion. not to mention that if they can block tor/vpn, they can block whatever tls chat service you have as well.

Why is running a webserver going to arouse suspicion? Furthermore, with https authentication, non members wouldn't even know that a chat is going on.

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Re: China Blocks WhatsApp

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Post by aodin »

CamperBob2 wrote: post #24
0xbear wrote: post #14

So brown nosing with comrade Jinping did not have a desired result. For those not aware: Zuck asked him to name his first born. Jinping declined. :-)

Interesting. Got a link that backs up this rather surreal claim?

> At a White House dinner in 2015, Mr. Zuckerberg had even asked the Chinese president, Xi Jinping, whether Mr. Xi might offer a Chinese name for his soon-to-be-born first child — usually a privilege reserved for older relatives, or sometimes a fortune teller. Mr. Xi declined, according to a person briefed on the matter.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/17/technology/facebook-gover...

Re: China Blocks WhatsApp

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Post by revelation »

Does OpenVPN still work, in normal or PSK mode? I wonder if at some point their filtering gets smart enough that they will just turn it over to a whitelist, or worse, straying too far from the "norm user" gets you a visit from police.

Re: China Blocks WhatsApp

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Post by r00fus »

ChuckMcM wrote: post #2

This feels to me like the war on the Internet has entered a new phase.

I think I made a prediction earlier on HN about balkanization of the Internet - I give it till 2025 until all major countries are in a process of complete segregation.

Re: China Blocks WhatsApp

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Post by abrkn »

rubenbe wrote: post #13

This is getting really strict. I went to China around 2012: * Facebook was already blocked * Google and wikipedia magically stopped working when you searched for "tiananmen" * Gmail worked fine I returned in early 2017, oh god what a change: * Don't even think about Facebook * Ironically Facebook messenger worked until my session expired * No gmail, google at all (don't remember about Wikipedia) * Whatsapp worked fin…

Some WeChat groups relating to cryptocurrency are moving to Telegram. I wonder how that'll last.

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Post by mtgx »

sliverstorm wrote: post #31
rubenbe wrote: post #13

This is getting really strict. I went to China around 2012: * Facebook was already blocked * Google and wikipedia magically stopped working when you searched for "tiananmen" * Gmail worked fine I returned in early 2017, oh god what a change: * Don't even think about Facebook * Ironically Facebook messenger worked until my session expired * No gmail, google at all (don't remember about Wikipedia) * Whatsapp worked fin…

How well does Android work in general if all google services are blocked? I know Android doesn't technically require google, but a lot of the features & stuff are entangled, like backup & restore, contact sync, etc.

That's easy. China has a lot of third-party stores, including stores of pirated apps. Some phones even come built-in with some of those stores.

As for sync, the Chinese companies selling there have their own cloud services and whatnot. This isn't an issue at all.

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Post by htrp »

sliverstorm wrote: post #31
rubenbe wrote: post #13

This is getting really strict. I went to China around 2012: * Facebook was already blocked * Google and wikipedia magically stopped working when you searched for "tiananmen" * Gmail worked fine I returned in early 2017, oh god what a change: * Don't even think about Facebook * Ironically Facebook messenger worked until my session expired * No gmail, google at all (don't remember about Wikipedia) * Whatsapp worked fin…

How well does Android work in general if all google services are blocked? I know Android doesn't technically require google, but a lot of the features & stuff are entangled, like backup & restore, contact sync, etc.

Barely.... Chinese android phones install a homegrown version of the play store as almost the entire gplay services framework doesn't work.

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Post by imron »

CamperBob2 wrote: post #24
0xbear wrote: post #14

So brown nosing with comrade Jinping did not have a desired result. For those not aware: Zuck asked him to name his first born. Jinping declined. :-)

Interesting. Got a link that backs up this rather surreal claim?

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/china-s-president-x...

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Post by hw »

I'm curious if this is really censorship or just a play to further enhance the position of Chinese messaging apps' monopolies.

Question is why wouldn't the US block Chinese sites, apps and services like WeChat, Alibaba, Baidu, etc?

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