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Google will punish sites that use annoying pop-up ads

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Re: Google will punish sites that use annoying pop-up ads

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That is laughable. They push full screen pop-up ads within AdSense itself...

Is this true? Afaik I've never seen full screen Google ads (or perhaps I have, but just didn't identify them as such).

They do and have said it would be a negative ranking factor.

So yes, one google product can result in a penalty with another. You will probably make a few quid more on adsense though.

Re: Google will punish sites that use annoying pop-up ads

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post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Google owns one of them, so there's that distinction...

Have you ever seen the little "x" in the corner of google display ads? If you click it, you're asked for the reason you're objecting to the ad. Among them "ad covers content". Meaning: you shouldn't always assume the worst, especially if there's evidence against it.

This option is available only on website. The app doesn't support it. Yet.

Re: Google will punish sites that use annoying pop-up ads

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I work for an e-commerce company. This absolutely brutalized our sales until we made significant changes to our layout.

I understand that this instance is seen as a net positive for the end user, but Google should not have the power to force websites to conform to whatever Google decides is the new standard, or become irrelevant.

The end user should be deciding what is and isn't worthwhile content, or where to shop, or what have you. Not Google.

Re: Google will punish sites that use annoying pop-up ads

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Google is very concerned about ads that visually block text content. But somehow forcing ads in front of videos on YouTube isn't the same exact thing? Both force an ad to be looked at before granting you access to the content you came for. I don't get the distinction.

I think the difference is the potential for abuse. It's not possible for a YouTube advertiser to make a YouTube ad appear to be a system popup or for it to attempt to take over my browser experience by full screening. Keep in mind, Google has been fine with popup ads until 2017.

Re: Google will punish sites that use annoying pop-up ads

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Showing something different to GoogleBot than your users is against terms of service, all good until you get caught.

You're not getting "caught", and Google can fuck right off with any "terms of service" that I never agreed to about how I respond when they scrape my site without permission. I know that there are practical concerns here, but Google has done a masterful job of shaping the conversation so that many people think anything not sanctioned by Almighty Google with regard to SEO (let alone actual "blackhat" tactics) is illeg…

>scrape my site without permission.

No one needs permission to request a web page, and that includes bots. But if that still bothers you, why not create arobots.txt with your preferences?

Re: Google will punish sites that use annoying pop-up ads

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post #54

I work for an e-commerce company. This absolutely brutalized our sales until we made significant changes to our layout. I understand that this instance is seen as a net positive for the end user, but Google should not have the power to force websites to conform to whatever Google decides is the new standard, or become irrelevant. The end user should be deciding what is and isn't worthwhile content, or where to shop,…

Not you either.

If people come in through Google because they are searching for something and instead of arriving at the content that was advertised in search results, see a content covering popup, that's not really informed decision making. I think Google has legitimate right to rank sites that do this lower.

Re: Google will punish sites that use annoying pop-up ads

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post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not sure I understand. Both are an overlay blocking content. I suspect Google would still punish an interstitial overlay with a countdown timer that dismissed it. If you don't click, YouTube sometimes makes you watch 30+ seconds of ads. Here's Google's post about it: https://webmasters.googleblog.com/2016/08/helping-users-easi...

I've seen a couple of five minute long ads on Youtube. I really doubt anyone intentionally watches them.

To be honest I've seen a couple advertisements that I watched the full ~5 minutes. Both were game trailers that were really interesting. I would have rather had a "click here to view the actual trailer video instead of the ad version" button though. I was sold after the first 2 minutes, but couldn't see the full name of the game until the end.
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