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Impressive! David vs Goliath! Google thought Angela Merkel was a "He". And DeepL not just translated correctly, it also gave a really concise text. Following text from "Der Spiegel". Original: Angela Merkel hat sich gegen Vorwürfe gewehrt, dass es dem Bundestagswahlkampf an Spannung fehle. Google translate: Angela Merkel has reproached himself against allegations that the Bundestag election campaign is lacking in ten…

DeepL back to German: Angela Merkel widersetzte sich dem Vorwurf, der Bundestagswahlkampf sei spannungsarm. English again: Angela Merkel opposed the accusation that the election campaign in the Bundestag was not tense. German: Angela Merkel wandte sich gegen den Vorwurf, der Wahlkampf im Bundestag sei nicht gespannt. English: Angela Merkel objected to the accusation that the election campaign in the Bundestag was not…

In my mind, the translation is an improvement over the original. For one, summaries are to be written using the present tense. Secondly, there is no technical difference between Spannung and Anspunnung that maatered, and Anspannung is the more technical term whereas Spannung suggests government elections were some form of entertainment.

And by the way. It's impressive^W^W Its impressive handling of the abomination that is "dass es" and similar constructions is pretty impressive (see what I did there?). In that sense, I'm surprised the reflexive form was recovered in the German.

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"Fruit flies like an arrow" Google: La fruta vuela como una flecha. DeepL: La fruta vuela como una flecha. "Fruit flies like bananas". Google: La fruta vuela como plátanos. DeepL: Las moscas de la fruta son como los plátanos.

How is fruit uncountable? Is human, too? Is fruits or the fruits not disambiguous enough? This is idiosyncratic at best. I wouldn't blame any learner misinterpreting the example and would avoid to teach this as correct.

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"Fruit flies like an arrow" Google: La fruta vuela como una flecha. DeepL: La fruta vuela como una flecha. "Fruit flies like bananas". Google: La fruta vuela como plátanos. DeepL: Las moscas de la fruta son como los plátanos.

How is fruit uncountable? Is human, too? Is fruits or the fruits not disambiguous enough? This is idiosyncratic at best. I wouldn't blame any learner misinterpreting the example and would avoid to teach this as correct.

human has fruit. human eats. uga uga chestdrum :-D

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There's no ambiguity in the second sentence. The translation is simply wrong.

No, there is ambiguity. "I saw some weird fruit flies." "What were they like?" "They were like bananas." "Fruit flies like bananas?" "Yeah, they were implausibly yellow and banana-shaped."

The tricky part is the zero relative pronoun in your construction that could be confused for a highly irregular-verb-like use of like. You wouldn't say either of "he like(s) (a) banana" in standard english, unless taking Influence from creole perhaps. Another source of confusion to me is the difference of uncountability, generic nouns etc. The whole thing would work without the interjection in "fruit fly bananas" or vice versa, from "banana-like fruit fly".

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, there is ambiguity. "I saw some weird fruit flies." "What were they like?" "They were like bananas." "Fruit flies like bananas?" "Yeah, they were implausibly yellow and banana-shaped."

The tricky part is the zero relative pronoun in your construction that could be confused for a highly irregular-verb-like use of like . You wouldn't say either of "he like(s) (a) banana" in standard english, unless taking Influence from creole perhaps. Another source of confusion to me is the difference of uncountability, generic nouns etc. The whole thing would work without the interjection in "fruit fly bananas" or…

TIL about zero relative pronouns, despite using them all the time and wondering about why we can elide them in English but not reliably in many other languages, e.g. "The car (optional that) I bought" vs. "El coche (required que) compré".
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