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It can't happen here.
Not only can it happen here, but the founders of the country thought it would by the mid 1800s.
Judge orders tech company to release Web user data from anti-Trump website
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Re: Judge orders tech company to release Web user data from anti-Trump website
#52Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don't think its hyperbole. This is deeply concerning. We're entering a new era of authoritarianism.
More accurately we're entering a new era of politically slanted selective memories. See: The bulk phone data collection programs instituted by the Patriot Act, the vast expansion of NSA data collection (of us all) under the Obama administration, the straight-to-the-wire tapping of critical internet infrastructure and providers such as Google, Microsoft etc. enabled by the establishment of the secret FISA court which…
The problem is that a bit less than half of the country is opposed to these issues at time. After an election cycle the other half will be opposed and those previously opposed will become silent.
Re: Judge orders tech company to release Web user data from anti-Trump website
#53Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don't think its hyperbole. This is deeply concerning. We're entering a new era of authoritarianism.
More accurately we're entering a new era of politically slanted selective memories. See: The bulk phone data collection programs instituted by the Patriot Act, the vast expansion of NSA data collection (of us all) under the Obama administration, the straight-to-the-wire tapping of critical internet infrastructure and providers such as Google, Microsoft etc. enabled by the establishment of the secret FISA court which…
Re: Judge orders tech company to release Web user data from anti-Trump website
#54Pretend we're talking about Daily Stormer and Charlottesville and I bet you'd see things differently.
Re: Judge orders tech company to release Web user data from anti-Trump website
#55why does the site seem like a place to investigate a riot? were there posters saying "I'm leaving now to go riot"? If there is nothing specific, then why is this allowable at all? And if there is something specific, then why can't they request those specific messages?
DisruptJ20 appears to have been created for the quite specific purpose of organising people to disrupt the presidential inauguration through illegal "direct action" tactics, with particular focus on teaching people to interfere with police checkpoints, resist arrest, etc. (By the way, remember those photos of the endless empty seats at the inauguration parade? The site in question has a post up bragging about how the…
Re: Judge orders tech company to release Web user data from anti-Trump website
#56Earlier quoted context omitted.
More accurately we're entering a new era of politically slanted selective memories. See: The bulk phone data collection programs instituted by the Patriot Act, the vast expansion of NSA data collection (of us all) under the Obama administration, the straight-to-the-wire tapping of critical internet infrastructure and providers such as Google, Microsoft etc. enabled by the establishment of the secret FISA court which…
Should we not be outraged though? Everything listed in both the patent and the grandparent is worrying to me. I feel like I owe 80% of my identity to my activities and time on the Internet. Many my age feel the same. My home is under attack.
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#57I'm not really surprised at this. I was in DC for the inauguration at an officially permitted protest. Afterwards I'm heading back on the Metro with a small sign saying "illegitimate president." When I get to the platform level there are several armed people in camoflauge, I'm assuming military, but I'm not 100% positive. I'm told by one of them that I need to leave the station immediately. I responded "is this a jok…
To paraphrase the famous saying, evil succeeds when good men and women do nothing. I have seen this happen in my own country. Don't want to see it happen in the USA as well.
Re: Judge orders tech company to release Web user data from anti-Trump website
#58Pretend we're talking about Daily Stormer and Charlottesville and I bet you'd see things differently.
Not at all. If you have individual user accounts that you want more info on, and have evidence that they used the forum to plan a serious crime, sure that passes muster. Giving the Committee for Public Safety the names and addresses of every single user that registered or posted there, hell no.
Re: Judge orders tech company to release Web user data from anti-Trump website
#59Earlier quoted context omitted.
More accurately we're entering a new era of politically slanted selective memories. See: The bulk phone data collection programs instituted by the Patriot Act, the vast expansion of NSA data collection (of us all) under the Obama administration, the straight-to-the-wire tapping of critical internet infrastructure and providers such as Google, Microsoft etc. enabled by the establishment of the secret FISA court which…
Should we not be outraged though? Everything listed in both the patent and the grandparent is worrying to me. I feel like I owe 80% of my identity to my activities and time on the Internet. Many my age feel the same. My home is under attack.
Outrage creates both Marxists and Nazi's, and IMO both are harmful forces if given too much attention and power. I perceive fascism as the enemy, and both the far-left and the far-right are fascist. We should strive for deescalation and respect for the individual over the group.
Re: Judge orders tech company to release Web user data from anti-Trump website
#60> Prosecutors John Borchert and Jennifer Kerkhoff argued that their request had to be somewhat broad because they have no idea who was associated with the rioting through the website until they review the data. For people who think this is wrong, assuming you accept the premise that they should be investigating rioters, what alternative is there to find out who they are?
"They must do X, because it's the only way to catch the bad guy" is a catastrophically bad argument.