I mean, this isn't all that surprising. Not unlike buying a twenty-year-old visitor's guide to a city and finding that a number of the shops and restaurants have closed, the stadiums have different names, etc.
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I Bought a Book About the Internet from 1994 and None of the Links Worked
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Re: I Bought a Book About the Internet from 1994 and None of the Links Worked
#52The solution to link rot (and to privacy invasion) is to download the internet.
Could you please clarify?
Re: I Bought a Book About the Internet from 1994 and None of the Links Worked
#53Earlier quoted context omitted.
I bought a book from 1850, and I could still look up all the references in a university library, or even find most of them on Google Book Search.
Not all information on the Internet is created equal and not all information needs to be available in perpetuity. "Free $tuff From the Internet" from 23 years ago is closer to a restaurant guide than a book containing literary or academic references. I'd imagine most of the references in an 1850s coupon book or almanac would also be long dead.
This. I'm really excited about projects like IPFS but I'm not totally comfortable with the "everything persists forever" philosophy as it stands now. Preventing link rot is a very worthwhile cause, but content creators should have control over what persists and for how long (see: "Right to Be Forgotten").
Re: I Bought a Book About the Internet from 1994 and None of the Links Worked
#54Related to this, I had trouble finding examples of pre 1996 web design. The internet archive has a lot from 1997 onwards. The oldest live examples of sites from that era, that I know of are: http://www.w3.org/History/19921103-hypertext/hypertext/WWW/T... http://oreilly.com/gnn/gnnhome.html http://www.trincoll.edu/zines/tj/tj12.02.93/tjcontents.html The BBC also donated its Networking Club to the Internet Archive: htt…
That O'Reilly GNN site is beautiful. I miss this simplicity.
Re: I Bought a Book About the Internet from 1994 and None of the Links Worked
#55> [The Rolling Stones] actually streamed a concert on the platform in November of that year, using an online provider named MBone for some reason..
The MBone was not a "provider", it was an IP multicast network. This was the only way to efficiently stream video content to thousands of simultaneous clients before the advent of CDNs. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mbone
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#56Man, I really miss FTP. I remember when you would just FTP to the site you were using and grab a binary from their /pub/. Mirrors were plentiful, and FXP could distribute files without needing a shell on a file server.
I miss that "UH-OH" sound from WS_FTP
Me too. Here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gl99t4S3ChM
Re: I Bought a Book About the Internet from 1994 and None of the Links Worked
#57Can't see the article with NoScript. :-)
Re: I Bought a Book About the Internet from 1994 and None of the Links Worked
#58Solution: https://ipfs.io > The average lifespan of a web page is 100 days. Remember GeoCities? The web doesn't anymore. It's not good enough for the primary medium of our era to be so fragile. > IPFS provides historic versioning (like git) and makes it simple to set up resilient networks for mirroring of data.
> Remember GeoCities? The web doesn't anymore. Bad example: http://reocities.com/
Mixed example. Only a small fraction of Geocities pages / content have been preserved. Most of it is lost permanently.
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#59"It was possible to get on a text-based version of the internet for free in many areas, using only a modem and a phone line. An entire section of Free $tuff From the Internet offers up a lengthy list of free-nets, grassroots phone systems that essentially allowed for free access to text-based online resources."
Makes me want to try to read a Markdown-only Internet browser, which treats native Markdown documents as the only kind of Web page.
Re: I Bought a Book About the Internet from 1994 and None of the Links Worked
#60See also: Best of the Web '94 Awards. Presented at the First International Conference on the World-Wide Web, Geneva, Switzerland, May 1994. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_International_Conference... What's cool isn't how fast some of these technologies become obsolete, such as various Java applets and cgi-bin connected webcams. It's the static content that can survive until the end of time. Like Nicolas Pioch's…
I must say the swiss-prot links from then still work. You are redirected to the uniprot.org website but the links work.