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When are we getting official support for superior languages without GC? Say like Rust?
A little off-topic but I'm gettinga little impatient. What is the reason we can't have a dnf install dotnet or apt install dotnet and have it linked to whatever is the most recent? I can even do that with php-cli. A deeper problem to me is I don't think there's enough expertise outside of Microsoft to continue this project should Microsoft decide to take its toys and go home.
>Microsoft decide to take its toys and go home. coreclr and corefx (basically C# .NET Core) source code is using MIT license.
I mean no disrespect to my hardworking friends at red hat but they cannot take over stewardship of the entirety of dot net. Nobody else seems remotely interested.
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IKVM development has been halted: http://weblog.ikvm.net/
So sad to learn about that. Ikvm was so great! It was really granting you access to all the Java world in .Net I hope it will find a new developer. Microsoft should pay someone to do it IMHO
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>Microsoft decide to take its toys and go home. coreclr and corefx (basically C# .NET Core) source code is using MIT license.
Yes but who will (indeed can) continue the project should Microsoft stop work on it? I mean no disrespect to my hardworking friends at red hat but they cannot take over stewardship of the entirety of dot net. Nobody else seems remotely interested.
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Luckily there is a better alternative.... https://www.jetbrains.com/rider/
I love Rider but since they went GA it's super expensive. VS for Mac beta channel is decent, then there's VSCode which is free
On top of that if you buy a yearly license or you pay the monthly license for a year, you get a "perpetual" license. You get to keep the turn current version forever without buying another license.
A little off-topic but I'm gettinga little impatient. What is the reason we can't have a dnf install dotnet or apt install dotnet and have it linked to whatever is the most recent? I can even do that with php-cli. A deeper problem to me is I don't think there's enough expertise outside of Microsoft to continue this project should Microsoft decide to take its toys and go home.
The number of commits and pull requests for .NET from outside MS seems to be increasing all the time.
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I love Rider but since they went GA it's super expensive. VS for Mac beta channel is decent, then there's VSCode which is free
$139 a year or $14 a month for an individual license is "expensive"? On top of that if you buy a yearly license or you pay the monthly license for a year, you get a "perpetual" license. You get to keep the turn current version forever without buying another license.
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> .NET had/has a higher cost to entry > It is arguably also a bad business decision to shell out $$ for a language that isn't used at your company. What cost(s) are you thinking of here? .NET doesn't cost anything (monetarily). Some of the tools cost money but you can also get by in the .NET world with a command-prompt and text editor (I did as a hobbyist for quite some time). I might be misunderstanding your stateme…
For a long time many third party components were commercial. A lot more than in the Ruby, Python or Java ecosystems, for example. Things are slowly moving towards Open Source and cross platform, but .NET is far behind Java at this moment. It is moving fast, though.
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renewed interest Maybe in the Hacker News bubble. Outside of that, things have been cruising along quite nicely for at least a decade.
I've worked with .Net devs for most of the past 17-18 years... I've done my fair share of C# development beyond that. And I've seen a lot of shops move away from .Net. Several to Node.js, others to Java or Ruby. It's not just a Hacker News bubble. I'm working in a place now, where most new development is .Net core to be deployed in Linux. There are also a few node projects, and go is also approved for new projects. B…
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For a long time many third party components were commercial. A lot more than in the Ruby, Python or Java ecosystems, for example. Things are slowly moving towards Open Source and cross platform, but .NET is far behind Java at this moment. It is moving fast, though.
I've been doing .NET development since 2006 and have never had to buy commercial components. Every time I have needed something there has been free/open source stuff. I'm guessing it depends on what type of software you are working on?