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Update on Bitcoin Cash

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Re: Update on Bitcoin Cash

#51
Summary:

"Over the last several days, we’ve examined all of the relevant issues and have decided to work on adding support for bitcoin cash for Coinbase customers. We are planning to have support for bitcoin cash by January 1, 2018, assuming no additional risks emerge during that time."

Re: Update on Bitcoin Cash

#52
post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Off the chain transactions ? Then what's the point of a blockchain ? Hmmm

Blockchain remains, but it's will only contain hash of transaction script. Actual transaction script body which is heavy and take most of space in blockchain will go into separate extended block. This reduces size of transactions in main chain. You might want to check this 5 minute segregated witness explained video: https://youtu.be/OFfBRzh9HmU Or this 50 minute presentation from actual Bitcoin developer and initiat…

The 5 minute video is extremely misinformed if not outright wrong. There is no such thing as an "extended block" in the current form of Segwit[0].

I've linked to a better explanation down below. It does run 12 minutes but you only need to watch the first 3 minutes for a technical answer.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DzBAG2Jp4bg

[0]:https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/65uriv/a_simplifie...

Re: Update on Bitcoin Cash

#54
post #48

Dumb question: Supposing BCC eventually becomes of comparable value to BTC, does this mean everyone's fortune was just doubled?

By that point BTC would most likely go down in value. The more people who use BCC, the more likely it is to overtake BTC. If less people use BTC, there won't be enough demand for it to maintain its current price.

Re: Update on Bitcoin Cash

#55
post #49

Say what you will about Coinbase, but I really appreciate their willingness to adapt and respond to customer feedback. I personally didn't want to take on the risk of creating a paper wallet and having to move my small amount of BTC from my Coinbase vault, so this is great news for me.

Uh okay. I will say what I will. They could have held this position from the beginning if they had any foresight at all. How hard would it have been to say something like: 'We do not plan to support Bitcoincash given the impact on operations, security, and value uncertainty. If you want complete freedom with your Bitcoincash, take out your Bitcoin. Otherwise, we may add support in the future, but the timeline will be based on our determination of risk to our systems and effort required.'

Re: Update on Bitcoin Cash

#56
post #16

Is there a viable alternative to Coinbase? Their support is absurdly awful. Two months and they sent two auto-replies to a simple ticket that couldn't be answered by the knowledge base. They don't care about your money - so long as it's already in their vault.

Speed of Government "viable alternative" seems pretty subjective.

CoinBase is a pretty damn big cryptocurrency exchange and it's based in the US and complies with US law. Mt Gox (an exchange that ceased operating a few years ago) was based in Japan and got pwned, causing the first large Bitcoin bubble burst. BTC-e just went down the same day Greek police arrested the alleged MtGox hacker, who reportedly had ties to BTC-e.

Choose your exchange carefully.

Re: Update on Bitcoin Cash

#57
post #16

Is there a viable alternative to Coinbase? Their support is absurdly awful. Two months and they sent two auto-replies to a simple ticket that couldn't be answered by the knowledge base. They don't care about your money - so long as it's already in their vault.

Yeah, a while ago I was trying to send some money to them but I wasn't able to validate my address because I had an apartment number but their form didn't include a space for an apartment number so I got a "non-matching address" error. I even contacted their support but they weren't helpful. I'm probably better off.

Re: Update on Bitcoin Cash

#58

Question: if Coinbase never claimed the Bitcoin Cash, would there be any grounds for a lawsuit?

They don't have to claim it. Purely by controlling the addresses that held BTC at the time of the fork, Coinbase controls the BCH that magicked into existence.

The issue is that BCH belongs to the original owner of the BTC it was forked from. Despite Coinbase telling people to withdraw their BTC if they wanted the BCH a lot of people no-doubt now feel aggrieved that they're unable to access the new theoretical windfall.

Re: Update on Bitcoin Cash

#59
post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

GADX is their trading platform. They don't plan on supporting trading with BCC. That being said, no, you don't own a short position. I don't see why that would even be related to this.

Because shorting means you're borrowing BTC so you can sell it off. Since you borrowed BTC, you're the one who would have received the BCC for that BTC, so are you on the hook to give that back as well? If I borrow your hen and it lays an egg and that hatches a chick, shouldn't I give you the chick back with the hen?

I just reread the thread and understand the discussion. I had misread the first post.

That being said, I think when margin trading on GADX no actual Bitcoin transactions are occurring. So, Coinbase is just doing accounting for the trades using internal assets. I think they could later on replay everything but treat all of the short positions as having exited directly at the split or something along those lines.

Re: Update on Bitcoin Cash

#60
post #55
post #49

Say what you will about Coinbase, but I really appreciate their willingness to adapt and respond to customer feedback. I personally didn't want to take on the risk of creating a paper wallet and having to move my small amount of BTC from my Coinbase vault, so this is great news for me.

Uh okay. I will say what I will. They could have held this position from the beginning if they had any foresight at all. How hard would it have been to say something like: 'We do not plan to support Bitcoincash given the impact on operations, security, and value uncertainty. If you want complete freedom with your Bitcoincash, take out your Bitcoin. Otherwise, we may add support in the future, but the timeline will be…

DO you mean like they said on July 28th?

> Customers who wish to access both bitcoin (BTC) and bitcoin cash (BCC) need to withdraw bitcoin stored on Coinbase before 11.59 pm PT July 31, 2017. If you do not wish to access bitcoin cash (BCC) then no action is required.

https://blog.coinbase.com/update-for-customers-with-bitcoin-...

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