Hacker News Board Hacker News, browsed like a classic message board
Live data from Hacker News

Tesla Model 3 First Drive Review

motortrend.com

Post reply on HN
Print view View original

51–60 of 222 posts

Re: Tesla Model 3 First Drive Review

#51

Post by martin_bech »

ardit33 wrote: post #31
sliken wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Never really understood the "luxury" interiors with huge number of details, materials, mixes of leathers, wood, different kinda of metal, etc. The interior that stood out to me was porsche 911 from around 1970. Not distracting, simple, robust, and lasts 30 years (when I saw it). A larger display for excellent situational awareness (map, gps, dozen or so cameras, ultrasonic, and radar). What were you hoping for? A few…

Touch screens are terrible to use while driving, especially for frequent operations (volume, change stations, climate control, hazard lights, wipers, etc). The current trend is to push more into these touch interfaces, but most car manufactures have still left some of the more important ones as physical buttons. For tesla the matter is not ergonomics, but simply cost.

Wipers are automatic, volume, stations and fan speed are on the steering wheel (aling with voice control at other setting. at least on my Model S)

Re: Tesla Model 3 First Drive Review

#52

Post by chvid »

booop wrote: post #17

No comments on the interiors? It looks more befitting in a prototype than a $36,000+ car.

I was struck how sad the interior of the Tesla S looks compared to a mid-priced Audi.

I understand how people can be excited about the driving experience and the fossile-fuel-vision of a Tesla. But interior wise they are not anything special.

Re: Tesla Model 3 First Drive Review

#53

Post by elmar »

sliken wrote: post #33
biehl wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It has electric brakes, right?

It has regen, which is basically energy capture via electric brakes. But it also has regular breaks, most drivers don't use them much so they last a really long time.

they should have a small supercapacitor to capture the instant energy spikes of regen.

Re: Tesla Model 3 First Drive Review

#54

Post by manigandham »

erikpukinskis wrote: post #15
jimmcslim wrote: post #12

Is there a HUD or do I have to move my eyes to the centre console to check my speed? Seems like bad ergonomics to me... and whereas the road ahead is perhaps still in my peripheral vision when I check my speedo, its less so if I am glancing at the centre console (which maybe has a bunch of other distracting things on it as well?)

The screen is not in the center console it sticks above the dash. Seems like the speed is probably just as close to the road as any other vehicle if not closer. Do you think a diagonal saccade is worse than a vertical one for some reason?

> Do you think a diagonal saccade is worse than a vertical one for some reason?

Yes, definitely. You don't?

Vertical movement is much easier, just try it. It's also easier to focus since one eye isn't farther away or blocked by your nose.

Re: Tesla Model 3 First Drive Review

#55

Post by adventured »

Animats wrote: post #14

Nice, but $59,500 as shown. Not $35,000. The real-world price has crept up. The base model has a small battery. The Tesla Model S starts at $68,000. So the real-world price is down only 13% from the Model S.

You're making an incorrect comparison, there's a logic failure there.

$59,500 as shown, then you use that to compare to the base Model S at $68,000, referencing a "real-world" price difference of 13%.

How exactly is $59,500 defined as the official "real-world" price, such that it gets pegged as the key comparison point to use vs the base S? That's a wholly subjective premise you crafted.

Re: Tesla Model 3 First Drive Review

#56

Post by drawnwren »

_ph_ wrote: post #39
Animats wrote: post #14

Nice, but $59,500 as shown. Not $35,000. The real-world price has crept up. The base model has a small battery. The Tesla Model S starts at $68,000. So the real-world price is down only 13% from the Model S.

The "small battery" still has more range than any other electric car out there, except the Bolt, which has a very small lead, but does not seem to be made in large numbers. And it matches the promised range (>215 miles). So it is great value for everyone, who does not need the 300 mile range. So you do get a sporty (0-60 <6s) 5 seated electrical sedan for 35k, which is great.

In what world is a sub 6s 0-60 sporty? The WRX gets 4.6, and I'd consider that the edge of sporty (also cheaper than the 3).

Re: Tesla Model 3 First Drive Review

#58

Post by Tomte »

randyrand wrote: post #36
mack1001 wrote: post #3

If everything goes right, Model 3 can change the business model of cars. Shift to value add + functionality upgrade based pricing versus a sales and service oriented model.

Also they own the repair market. You can't get your tesla serviced at a normal shop as the software, parts, and diagnostics are proprietary, so they could actually sell the car at a loss and make the big bucks on repairs. I don't want this. But its a viable business model.

Won't fly in Europe. They will have to open up all their diagnostics and special tools.

Re: Tesla Model 3 First Drive Review

#59

Post by roesel »

jimmcslim wrote: post #12

Is there a HUD or do I have to move my eyes to the centre console to check my speed? Seems like bad ergonomics to me... and whereas the road ahead is perhaps still in my peripheral vision when I check my speedo, its less so if I am glancing at the centre console (which maybe has a bunch of other distracting things on it as well?)

Renault Espace (among others) has had this for quite a while and it works fairly well. I'd even say it keeps your peripheral vision on the road more than the traditional clocks (if done right).

Re: Tesla Model 3 First Drive Review

#60

Post by adventured »

I'm curious about the risk of the center detached tablet becoming a loose, dangerous projectile in the event of a crash. I haven't seen anything so far on how they've attached it to ensure that's not a problem in hard collisions.
Post reply on HN