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Re: Concourse CI

#51

Post by islanderfun »

boyter wrote: post #10

My number one complaint with Concourse (which I suspect is due to Go) is that you need to have it hosted with a valid TLS/SSL cert in order to use the fly command. At least this was an issue in the 2.6.0 days, but I couldn't see anything to change this in the recent versions. This is rather annoying if you want to run a copy on your local network say at home. Its very frustrating because the fly command solves the bi…

> My number one complaint with Concourse (which I suspect is due to Go) is that you need to have it hosted with a valid TLS/SSL cert in order to use the fly command.

Nit: Not familiar with Concourse, but this is a design decision. Go stdlib let's you bypass SSL/TLS verification.

Re: Concourse CI

#52

Post by Jedd »

kapep wrote: post #49
Jedd wrote: post #47

Typo on front page. Rather than "Rather than a myriad of checkboxes..." it should be "Rather than myriad checkboxes..."

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/myriad > Usage Note: Throughout most of its history in English myriad was used as a noun, as in a myriad of reasons. In the 1800s, it began to be used in poetry as an adjective, as in myriad dreams. Both usages in English are acceptable, as in Samuel Taylor Coleridge's "Myriad myriads of lives." This poetic, adjectival use became so well entrenched generally that many people came to c…

There are many of reasons why I'm not going to calmly agree with the audacious claim that 'both uses are acceptable today'.

Re: Concourse CI

#53

Post by superplussed »

Jedd wrote: post #52
kapep wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/myriad > Usage Note: Throughout most of its history in English myriad was used as a noun, as in a myriad of reasons. In the 1800s, it began to be used in poetry as an adjective, as in myriad dreams. Both usages in English are acceptable, as in Samuel Taylor Coleridge's "Myriad myriads of lives." This poetic, adjectival use became so well entrenched generally that many people came to c…

There are many of reasons why I'm not going to calmly agree with the audacious claim that 'both uses are acceptable today'.

Of course both are acceptable, why is this an audacious claim?

Re: Concourse CI

#54

Post by kawsper »

argon81 wrote: post #39
webo wrote: post #11

Mostly off-topic but I've been looking for more than a CI for some quite time, more on the CD side. How are you guys handling some of these cases? Bonus points for hosted options. - Truly a pipeline based stages. No messing around with git branches/tags for each environment release. - Ability to combine multiple builds together. - Build dependencies. Ability to trigger project-B build when project-A build succeeds. (…

https://buildkite.com has all those features, and very easy to work with. It's a hybrid hosted model -you supply your own workers (they provide a CFN template to make that part easy), everything else (e.g. web UI/API) is hosted

Buildkite is hands down the best tool we have used.

Re: Concourse CI

#55

Post by Alexis54 »

nstart wrote: post #19

Not sure when it came about, but when I first evaluated Concourse, not being able to trigger jobs manually was a primary blocker. Glad this showed up on HN again, because they've added it in at some point. My favourite thing about Concourse was really its ideas around "Resources". This always felt so much better than this idea of plugins due to how unified the experience was. Also, the ability to implement resources…

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Re: Concourse CI

#56

Post by mst »

Jedd wrote: post #50
trumbitta2 wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I thought "Rather than a myriad checkboxes" (no of )

Certainly no 'of'. Article preceding is possibly optional (but it still sounds wrong to my ear).

Speaking from an en_UK POV 'a myriad of' is how I'd normally use it; the poetic adjectival form is nice in poetry, but doesn't feel quite right to me in normal language.

Whether I'm correct to feel like this is left as an exercise to the reader.

Re: Concourse CI

#57

Post by fatterypt »

nstart wrote: post #19

Not sure when it came about, but when I first evaluated Concourse, not being able to trigger jobs manually was a primary blocker. Glad this showed up on HN again, because they've added it in at some point. My favourite thing about Concourse was really its ideas around "Resources". This always felt so much better than this idea of plugins due to how unified the experience was. Also, the ability to implement resources…

This is also close to my experience. Improving, but not there yet. Unfortunately, it will retrigger the same job with the updated version of the resources. With other CI tools, it was possible to replay the same job, with whatever inputs they took by the time they ran, with concourse it does not seem t be possible.

A practical impact of this issue is that we cannot simply reprocess a previous deploy step, with the old artifacts and inputs in a middle of an outage.

Re: Concourse CI

#58

Post by Stella434 »

tomprince wrote: post #12
webo wrote: post #11

Mostly off-topic but I've been looking for more than a CI for some quite time, more on the CD side. How are you guys handling some of these cases? Bonus points for hosted options. - Truly a pipeline based stages. No messing around with git branches/tags for each environment release. - Ability to combine multiple builds together. - Build dependencies. Ability to trigger project-B build when project-A build succeeds. (…

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Re: Concourse CI

#59

Post by Jedd »

mst wrote: post #56
Jedd wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Certainly no 'of'. Article preceding is possibly optional (but it still sounds wrong to my ear).

Speaking from an en_UK POV 'a myriad of' is how I'd normally use it; the poetic adjectival form is nice in poetry, but doesn't feel quite right to me in normal language. Whether I'm correct to feel like this is left as an exercise to the reader.

When I lived in London I noticed lots of people got it wrong. If you think of it as a synonym for 'many' rather than 'lots' it's easier to slot into sentences correctly.

Re: Concourse CI

#60

Post by Jedd »

superplussed wrote: post #53
Jedd wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There are many of reasons why I'm not going to calmly agree with the audacious claim that 'both uses are acceptable today'.

Of course both are acceptable, why is this an audacious claim?

Because it invites (not begs) the question 'to whom are they both acceptable?'.

People that contribute to thefreedictionary.com, evidently.

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