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Re: Amazon possibly working on new stand-alone messaging app called Anytime

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why in the world is everyone so keen on entering the messaging app space? what the hell is the value for all of these companies? is conversation data that useful for training deep nets or something?

If you take a look at what wechat has done in china,you will get the answer.More and more people there are shopping,making payments via wechat pay instead of alipay,watching news through wechat news instead of other news sites,searching keywords through wechat search instead of baidu and doing almost everything in wechat.WeChat is a growing threat to other IT companies in china.In fact,alibaba has already tried sever…

The environment is not the same as China, both in terms of the infrastructure and people's expectations and mentalities.

Tencent is what it is because competition is banned. China's "internet" is more like AOL from the early 90s, with network performance from the early 2000s at best. Nobody is going to be able to move in WeChat's direction because other governments aren't willing to erect massive censorship infrastructure to kill competition.

Re: Amazon possibly working on new stand-alone messaging app called Anytime

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This is annoying for all the reasons typically cited...but what if amazon (or someone big like amazon) actually dove full-head into leveraging/supporting the matrix protocol as the foundation of their messaging product/service? And before anyone replies with "but then amazon wouldn't get their intended walled garden/controlled silo"...i beg you to ponder the notion that amazon has AWS - basically servers/services for hire - but that didn't stop microsoft, google, etc. from starting competing (similar) services. Imagine a future where amazon creates "chat as a service" based on matrix. Sure some firms/individuals won't need more than their own self-hosted instance...but enterprises - already experienced with aws - can add on pro hosted chat (a la matrix protocol). Amazon could even contribute to the mattrix project, even if only to feel like they're helping to steer the software updates to benefit their company. Overall everyone wins:

* Amazon doesn't need to develop a new chat system from scratch.

* They can make plenty of money hosting matrix instance servers for private individuals and more importantly enterprises (read: cha-ching!).

* By contributing to matrix project, amazon can "feel good" about to contributing to open source.

* Amazon gets free on-boarding of potential new customers. Use-case: small business sets up their own matrix instance...eventually outgrows that, then turns to AWS, and voila, they migrate their instance to the official/supported AWS matrix instances.

* If matrix - like email - were to eventually become a more widespread de facto messaging/chat protocl, AWS would be leagues ahead of other competitors.

* There is also incentive for the competion (microsoft, google), if Amazon starts this, because like AWS, the others would compete with their own chat/messaging platforms, but enterprise customers would have an easier migration curve - because all chat/messaging would be based on matrix...not unlike email platform migrations today.

Maybe my thoughts above are pipe dreaMS...but beyond the feel good aspects, i firmly believe there are possibilities for businesses to make good amounts of money in this space...and all due to a very good default protocol.

Re: Amazon possibly working on new stand-alone messaging app called Anytime

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why in the world is everyone so keen on entering the messaging app space? what the hell is the value for all of these companies? is conversation data that useful for training deep nets or something?

The Enterprise space is quite competetive in messaging space. Microsoft is the clear winner so far, followed closely by Google.

what's the MS solution? shows that i've never worked in enterprise that i don't even know
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