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Re: Deadmau5's mansion and its tech setup [video]

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The best art is often produced under great constraints, something that usually disappears after commercial success.

Necessity is the mother of invention?

Exactly. Stay hungry. Hunt outside your comfort zone. Break through your fears. Abandon that which does not serve you. Give it your all. Don't save any energy for the return trip. No bold knights can flourish in a peaceful country.

You know the song.

Re: Deadmau5's mansion and its tech setup [video]

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I'm pretty underwhelmed. It's a lot of fun toys, but IMHO that's borderline adolescent/masturbatory. Not even sour grapes, I swear, but I bet that massive modular analog synthesizer setup gets zero use. Conspicuous consumption plain and simple. Yuck. But that's me. I'm more impressed by some poor schlub in Echo Park with an old Roland sampler and a dozen crates of vinyl. There must be a pithy term in German for what…

He livestreams himself using the modular all the time...

Thank goodness! And thanks for correcting me.

He must just dilligently clean up the wires.

Re: Deadmau5's mansion and its tech setup [video]

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I'm pretty underwhelmed. It's a lot of fun toys, but IMHO that's borderline adolescent/masturbatory. Not even sour grapes, I swear, but I bet that massive modular analog synthesizer setup gets zero use. Conspicuous consumption plain and simple. Yuck. But that's me. I'm more impressed by some poor schlub in Echo Park with an old Roland sampler and a dozen crates of vinyl. There must be a pithy term in German for what…

> an old Roland sampler and a dozen crates of vinyl. That's conspicuous consumption as well, just of a different flavor. Tracking down a working vintage sampler and a pile of rare groove records is a large investment in both money and time.

It's not CC. The scale of value is off by several orders of magnitude. Drop me in any large city in the world and I can hunt those things down in a day for less than a $1000. Heck, I could probably do a limited run of mix tapes for that too.

The story in my head is the sampler was a thrift store find or a high school graduation gift and all the vinyl is from their dad or uncle (rare 70s grooves). Poor people can have nice things too.

Re: Deadmau5's mansion and its tech setup [video]

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I'm pretty underwhelmed. It's a lot of fun toys, but IMHO that's borderline adolescent/masturbatory. Not even sour grapes, I swear, but I bet that massive modular analog synthesizer setup gets zero use. Conspicuous consumption plain and simple. Yuck. But that's me. I'm more impressed by some poor schlub in Echo Park with an old Roland sampler and a dozen crates of vinyl. There must be a pithy term in German for what…

It's almost as if the first creative acts that get artists like this their fame are acts of desperation, undertaken against impossible odds. Later when fame and money comes, the artist buys more and more tools in a fruitless chase to recapture the previous glory but he can't because the fame and money prevent him from ever again having the one thing that made his first works awesome... desperation.

If only there was a morality play somewhere we could have learned this lesson /s

Re: Deadmau5's mansion and its tech setup [video]

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Digital software is able to reproduce the sounds, the challenge is in the synthesis of it.

What does "the challenge is in the synthesis of it" mean?

This is a weak metaphor, but a digital monitor can reproduce a fine work of art, but synthesizing (or modelling) the look and behavior of real oil paints digitally is a challenge.

Likewise, getting the algorithms just right and in the right orders and quantities to replicate everything analog modular synthesizers can do is very tricky, though theoretically possible.

Re: Deadmau5's mansion and its tech setup [video]

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True, in theory Now create a C program that reproduces a person singing, with all the variables that a real singer can act upon

That is not a useful comparison. Because if you try the same on a big analog modular you won't get very far at all - less far than you can get with code, given that very basic singing synthesis was already a solved problem back in the 1960s, and systems like Vocaloid have been commercial products for more than a decade now. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hDsJCJ02184 ...Which is the core problem with analog synthesis…

> But even though a wall of knobs and wires looks like the last word in musical openness, it actually puts some very rigid limits on the complexity and sophistication of what you can do. And worse (IMO) it trains you to think inside those limits instead of encouraging you to explore beyond them.

To me, this statement implies that you either don't understand what a modular synthesizer system is or you haven't kept up with the times. I mean, you literally build your own system by choosing your own components and patching them together however you want. You're free at any time to pull the patch cables and start over. Add one new module changes the entire system.

Other than the fact that you need to be able to plug it into something, I can't imagine anything being much further from the definitions of rigid and limiting. It would be like calling Pure Data limiting because it's a visual programming language. I don't know, it just seems silly to me.

There's a ton of small outfits in the Eurorack space doing really great stuff. To any one who is curious I'd suggest checking out some manufacturers like Make Noise, Mutable Instruments, ADDAC System, Modcan, and there's just too many to name.

Re: Deadmau5's mansion and its tech setup [video]

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I'm pretty underwhelmed. It's a lot of fun toys, but IMHO that's borderline adolescent/masturbatory. Not even sour grapes, I swear, but I bet that massive modular analog synthesizer setup gets zero use. Conspicuous consumption plain and simple. Yuck. But that's me. I'm more impressed by some poor schlub in Echo Park with an old Roland sampler and a dozen crates of vinyl. There must be a pithy term in German for what…

It's almost as if the first creative acts that get artists like this their fame are acts of desperation, undertaken against impossible odds. Later when fame and money comes, the artist buys more and more tools in a fruitless chase to recapture the previous glory but he can't because the fame and money prevent him from ever again having the one thing that made his first works awesome... desperation.

Or is it simply that public focus is limited and ever shifting. Artists cannot recapture the previous glory because it is fickle.

Re: Deadmau5's mansion and its tech setup [video]

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I'm pretty underwhelmed. It's a lot of fun toys, but IMHO that's borderline adolescent/masturbatory. Not even sour grapes, I swear, but I bet that massive modular analog synthesizer setup gets zero use. Conspicuous consumption plain and simple. Yuck. But that's me. I'm more impressed by some poor schlub in Echo Park with an old Roland sampler and a dozen crates of vinyl. There must be a pithy term in German for what…

> There must be a pithy term in German for what I'm trying to point at.

Saure Trauben

Re: Deadmau5's mansion and its tech setup [video]

#59

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> an old Roland sampler and a dozen crates of vinyl. That's conspicuous consumption as well, just of a different flavor. Tracking down a working vintage sampler and a pile of rare groove records is a large investment in both money and time.

It's not CC. The scale of value is off by several orders of magnitude. Drop me in any large city in the world and I can hunt those things down in a day for less than a $1000. Heck, I could probably do a limited run of mix tapes for that too. The story in my head is the sampler was a thrift store find or a high school graduation gift and all the vinyl is from their dad or uncle (rare 70s grooves). Poor people can have…

Sure, that's the story in everyone's head. Maybe that's not conspicuous consumption. More like "conspicuous authenticity"?

Everyone loves the story of "Well, he just got a beat up synth from his uncle's basement and was so inspired/gifted/dedicated/whatever that he then made this awesome music in spite of not having the latest gadgetry."

But, because we all love it, we fetishize it. And then people come along and productize and monetize it. And now you've got 303s selling for several grand on eBay.

Meanwhile, if you stray off script in a way that's cheap but not in a way that fits the hipster authentic narrative, it doesn't quite work. Putting together tunes using a beat up analog sampler and a crate — it always has to be a milk crate of course, too cheap to afford real shelving! — of records is hip. Putting together tunes using, I don't know, FruityLoops, your mom's old ThinkPad, and a bunch of old MP3s doesn't have the same cachet.

Re: Deadmau5's mansion and its tech setup [video]

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We know what ELP could do with that.

who is ELP? only decent analog stuff i know is from junkie xl and baseck

Emerson, Lake and Palmer. See https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WKNOlDtZluU for some of their bigger works, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iL7p86-2mPo for something more classical sounding (ok, Xenakis), and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7NAGTq_IJQ for an entire orchestra being replaced by three guys and a Moog.
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