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Re: China's bloggers, filmmakers feel chill of internet crackdown

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Reuters is blocked in China. China has been "closing" for 5 years now. According to "china watchers", this is expected to continue. Blame Xi.

I see. Reuters hasn't been blocked in US and a pussy graber got elected. Do you have a point?

Re: China's bloggers, filmmakers feel chill of internet crackdown

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Another fascinating "censorship" story playing out right now: Tencent Loses $14 Billion After Criticism From Chinese Media http://variety.com/2017/biz/news/tencent-loses-14-billion-ho... To call this "chilling" is a gross understatement!

So its okay to design games that treat kids like addicted lab rats aslong it makes 14 billion right. Fuck you. Grow up.

Re: China's bloggers, filmmakers feel chill of internet crackdown

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So just like any other country, which is amazing for a 1.x billion behemoth.

No. Amplified. The problems we're having in the West, even today, are a hangnail compared to the societal-structural issues currently facing mainland China.

Can you give any examples? Undoubtedly there are still numerous problems, but is it not just that they can't fix the entire country simultaneously, and some areas just have to wait their turn?

Re: China's bloggers, filmmakers feel chill of internet crackdown

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Ha! CCP don't give any shit about creativity . They want to be in control, including controlling creativity. In fact, if you're a Chinese people like me, you probably learned CCP's "Three Represents" when you in mid school. Which is: - "Represents advanced social productive forces" stands for economic production - "Represents the progressive course of China's advanced culture" stands for cultural development - "Repre…

Wow, I didn't realize that Japan had mimicked this sea ban. I only knew about the Japanese version. But how could such a move be reconciled with China's recent expansion into global politics?

That was a totally different China. Since then there was the communist cultural revolution and then "capitalism with Chinese characteristics" which is where China is currently.

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post #52

Another fascinating "censorship" story playing out right now: Tencent Loses $14 Billion After Criticism From Chinese Media http://variety.com/2017/biz/news/tencent-loses-14-billion-ho... To call this "chilling" is a gross understatement!

So its okay to design games that treat kids like addicted lab rats aslong it makes 14 billion right. Fuck you. Grow up.

Can we have discussion like adults instead of children please?

Re: China's bloggers, filmmakers feel chill of internet crackdown

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

No. Amplified. The problems we're having in the West, even today, are a hangnail compared to the societal-structural issues currently facing mainland China.

Can you give any examples? Undoubtedly there are still numerous problems, but is it not just that they can't fix the entire country simultaneously, and some areas just have to wait their turn?

Rich poor divide. Transportation. Pollution. Environment. Ethnic separatism/unrest. Energy. Public Health. Rights of criminally accused. And a not quite as well refined legal system...for instance I was reading about how drivers who accidentally hit a pedestrian are actually incentivise to backup to make sure to kill the pedestrians. And the social acceptance and ability to talk freely about social issues in public forums.

Re: China's bloggers, filmmakers feel chill of internet crackdown

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Newbie question but what is China's rationale for their internet censorship and firewall? What are they afraid of?

> Newbie question but what is China's rationale for their internet censorship and firewall? What are they afraid of? Aside from the CCP wanting to maintain its control in-land, there's this little real issue, that 80% the internet is mostly controlled from a handful of companies, all in the hands of foreign nationals (who are all "patriotic" and all reside in countries other than China). That is, things like search,…

It is not just the foreign aspect. China government will shut down private Chinese actors who voice opinions or provide an independent platform which goes against the party line.

Re: China's bloggers, filmmakers feel chill of internet crackdown

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I work in Chinese publishing, and the same thing is absolutely happening there. Books are being pulled off the shelves, publishers are being warned away from anything potentially controversial. The basic attitude is, "Don't risk it", and it's absolutely deadly to creativity and culture. On the one hand, the central government is trying to encourage Chinese culture to "Go Out" and wow the world. On the other, it is absolutely strangling the country's cultural creators.

Re: China's bloggers, filmmakers feel chill of internet crackdown

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post #40

Newbie question but what is China's rationale for their internet censorship and firewall? What are they afraid of?

> Newbie question but what is China's rationale for their internet censorship and firewall? What are they afraid of? Aside from the CCP wanting to maintain its control in-land, there's this little real issue, that 80% the internet is mostly controlled from a handful of companies, all in the hands of foreign nationals (who are all "patriotic" and all reside in countries other than China). That is, things like search,…

I think the Answer is yes.

We had no issue with Nokia or Toyota. We consume Anime. Lots of companies use Kaspersky despite apparent ties to RU intelligence services. There is some talk of the DoD pulling out from a contract --but that's DoD and I imagine Chinese version of DoD would do something similar.

Re: China's bloggers, filmmakers feel chill of internet crackdown

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can you give any examples? Undoubtedly there are still numerous problems, but is it not just that they can't fix the entire country simultaneously, and some areas just have to wait their turn?

Rich poor divide. Transportation. Pollution. Environment. Ethnic separatism/unrest. Energy. Public Health. Rights of criminally accused. And a not quite as well refined legal system...for instance I was reading about how drivers who accidentally hit a pedestrian are actually incentivise to backup to make sure to kill the pedestrians. And the social acceptance and ability to talk freely about social issues in public f…

> drivers who accidentally hit a pedestrian are actually incentivise to backup to make sure to kill the pedestrians

Why?

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