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Shedding Light on the “Black Box of Inappropriateness”

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Re: Shedding Light on the “Black Box of Inappropriateness”

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Post by DLadowDiCanFuge »

jacquesm wrote: post #24
DLadowDiCanFuge wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you're aware of harassment and assault of women, please contact the appropriate authorities. It's not normal and you shouldn't accept it as such.

> If you're aware of harassment and assault of women, please contact the appropriate authorities. Are you kidding? I wouldn't have enough time in a day. Just some stats, 1 out of every 6 women has been the victim of attempted rape or rape. I'm aware of several such cases in the last 2 years alone, none of these resulted in an arrest or a court case and I have absolutely no reason not to believe the women. Besides tha…

I get what you're trying to say, but I don't agree with your defeatism. While I cannot single-handedly stop all sexual assault, every person that I can indirectly protect is precious. I will never stop trying.

Re: Shedding Light on the “Black Box of Inappropriateness”

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Post by harryh »

crispytx wrote: post #12

If you invite someone over to your apartment to drink scotch, and then they come on to you, that's not sexual assault. Sexual assault is when someone has sex with another person without their permission.

As a matter of law you are incorrect (at least in the United States).

"Sexual assault is any type of sexual contact or behavior that occurs without the explicit consent of the recipient. Falling under the definition of sexual assault are sexual activities as forced sexual intercourse, forcible sodomy, child molestation, incest, fondling, and attempted rape."

https://www.justice.gov/ovw/sexual-assault

Re: Shedding Light on the “Black Box of Inappropriateness”

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Post by cblock811 »

crispytx wrote: post #44
cblock811 wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Did you even read the article? "At this point, I led him to the door and told him he needs to leave. On the way out, he pushed himself onto me to the point where I was backed into a corner, made contact to kiss me, and said something along the lines of “Just one night, please just this one time.” Then he told me how he really likes strong and smart women like me. Disgusted and outraged, I said no firmly again, pushed…

So what? He came on to someone while he was drinking at their apartment. That's all he's guilty of. People are acting like he's Bill Cosby or something. Give me a break.

If a guy who is bigger than you and had the kind of leverage he had did that, I wonder if you would say "aw let's give him a break, he's just hitting on me".

Re: Shedding Light on the “Black Box of Inappropriateness”

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Post by dzhang50 »

crispytx wrote: post #41
dzhang50 wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

From the article: "After the meeting, Khailee, Dave, and a few others (including two other females), came over to my apartment to brainstorm about 500 Startups’ new Growth / Distribution Accelerator, Cerebro (later rebranded as Distro Dojo) and also a hashtag for MaGIC, the organization that I was leading." Does this sound like "inviting someone over to your apartment to drink scotch"? Do you think it's appropriate f…

#VirtueSignalling

#NoComeback

Re: Shedding Light on the “Black Box of Inappropriateness”

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Post by justasitsounds »

sokoloff wrote: post #18
jacquesm wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> a few) rotten apples. Wow, that's really incredible optimism. I'd be more than happy if there was a 50/50 split between the kinds of apples but I fear that it is more along the lines of 20/80 or worse based on what I see and hear around me when no women are within earshot.

Have you ever been around a group of all women and heard what they say? (I'm male but) I have and let's just say, there's a female "locker room" as well just down the hall from ours.

And the women in this locker room regularly pressure their juniors into having sex with them? I don't get the equivalence here.

Sure, women talk dirty too, rather less of them are guilty of sexual coercion and assault then their male counterparts, I would hazard

Re: Shedding Light on the “Black Box of Inappropriateness”

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Post by roywiggins »

crispytx wrote: post #41
dzhang50 wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

From the article: "After the meeting, Khailee, Dave, and a few others (including two other females), came over to my apartment to brainstorm about 500 Startups’ new Growth / Distribution Accelerator, Cerebro (later rebranded as Distro Dojo) and also a hashtag for MaGIC, the organization that I was leading." Does this sound like "inviting someone over to your apartment to drink scotch"? Do you think it's appropriate f…

#VirtueSignalling

Citing the Justice Department is "virtue signalling"? Are you high?

Re: Shedding Light on the “Black Box of Inappropriateness”

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Post by crispytx »

This is so stupid. There are so many horrible things that can happen in life. A bald ugly guy trying to kiss you is not anywhere near the top of that list. And furthermore, the majority of first sexual encounters involve going back to someone's apartment for drinks. Women rarely tell the people they want to sleep with that they want to sleep with them, they drop subtle hints, like inviting you back to their place to drink scotch.

Re: Shedding Light on the “Black Box of Inappropriateness”

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Post by jacquesm »

ori_b wrote: post #47
jacquesm wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> If you're aware of harassment and assault of women, please contact the appropriate authorities. Are you kidding? I wouldn't have enough time in a day. Just some stats, 1 out of every 6 women has been the victim of attempted rape or rape. I'm aware of several such cases in the last 2 years alone, none of these resulted in an arrest or a court case and I have absolutely no reason not to believe the women. Besides tha…

"I'm not going to do anything about the sexual harassment that I'm aware of, I don't have the time". Seriously, what the fuck. If you don't care enough to do anything, at least have the decency to stop hand wringing about it on the internet.

You're being silly.

If every time I hear about a woman being harassed I would get myself mixed up in the case I don't think I'd have many friends left. Just in the last year alone one of my female friends was raped in her own home and if she wanted me to do something I'm pretty sure she'd be more than willing to ask, all I can do instead is to be there when she wants to talk about it.

What bothers me is that people seem to think this stuff is rare.

What I can do - and do - is when something is happening around me and I'm aware of it when it is happening to step in, but after the fact if you are not a party to something then you are not going to help matters if you on your own without the consent of the victim approach the authorities, and you also don't have the right to take matters in your own hands.

So seriously, what the fuck, realize that if you are not in any way shape or form a party to an event that you may not have the right - and definitely do not have an obligation - to approach the authorities.

Re: Shedding Light on the “Black Box of Inappropriateness”

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Post by paulddraper »

harryh wrote: post #52
crispytx wrote: post #12

If you invite someone over to your apartment to drink scotch, and then they come on to you, that's not sexual assault. Sexual assault is when someone has sex with another person without their permission.

As a matter of law you are incorrect (at least in the United States). "Sexual assault is any type of sexual contact or behavior that occurs without the explicit consent of the recipient. Falling under the definition of sexual assault are sexual activities as forced sexual intercourse, forcible sodomy, child molestation, incest, fondling , and attempted rape." https://www.justice.gov/ovw/sexual-assault

Did you mean to say correct? That description and those examples are very different from the story I read.

Re: Shedding Light on the “Black Box of Inappropriateness”

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Post by harryh »

paulddraper wrote: post #59
harryh wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As a matter of law you are incorrect (at least in the United States). "Sexual assault is any type of sexual contact or behavior that occurs without the explicit consent of the recipient. Falling under the definition of sexual assault are sexual activities as forced sexual intercourse, forcible sodomy, child molestation, incest, fondling , and attempted rape." https://www.justice.gov/ovw/sexual-assault

Did you mean to say correct ? That description and those examples are very different from the story I read.

I was responding to "Sexual assault is when someone has sex with another person without their permission" which is incorrect in that it too narrowly defines sexual assault.
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