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Re: Zillow forces McMansion Hell to delete posts

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post #47

Wow Zillow, way to protect that valuable IP! If I were an employee there I would wonder why legal wasn't working on something more useful. Is there any open repository of house images (OpenStreetMaps, etc.) that could be used as a substitute in the interim?

Mapillary is where I'd look. They also have a really nice API, so some part could be automated.

Re: Zillow forces McMansion Hell to delete posts

#52

land of the free. also, guy, why you don't just replace all photos with street view photos of the same houses?

Most of the criticism of a house on MMH is of the interiors. While there often are bizarre nubs that are mocked, these are usually consequences of interior architecture choices that then spill out.

Furthermore, Street View photos aren't necessarily any safer from a copyright claim. I think a creative lawyer might try to make the claim that you can't copyright data, and that Street View is so ubiquitous that it's data and thus not copyrightable, I'd be surprised if a court bought it (though IANAL).

Re: Zillow forces McMansion Hell to delete posts

#53

Loser pays laws would help this kind of bullying.

wouldn't it make even more problematic? you risk not only lawyer fees but a fine too? maybe if the fine was % of assets, so the corporation risks 10% of assets if they lose, but that will never happen.

I think it'd be problematic in the grey-area cases (of which there are many). IANAL but I wouldn't mind judges being able to inflict loser-pays in egregious cases like this, though - where a big corporation knows they'll get their way because it's too expensive to fight.

Re: Zillow forces McMansion Hell to delete posts

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post #38

Funny. One of the homes they showed is in my area, and I had driven by it recently (since we're thinking about moving). And they're definitely right. It's a weird mix of horribleness. Especially the kitchen with its "update", aka let's throw in a couple of premium appliances and $2k worth of marble and call it a day. http://www.mcmansionhell.com/post/162143229176/50-states-of-... https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/19…

Could this be an approach to defend the blog? Community project to take fresh images of the same houses, make the images available to the site under a liberal license.

What I don't get is that the images themselves aren't even owned by Zillow. They get the pictures from the governing Multiple Listing Service (MLS). In this case, that's NorthstarMLS.

These images are available absolutely everywhere, on every real estate site imaginable.

Re: Zillow forces McMansion Hell to delete posts

#58
The Washington Post ran an article/video combo today[1] about Kate and McMansion Hell, and while Kate herself didn't mention Zillow the article itself did a few times. I imagine this is what prompted the legal threat. It's an entertaining video if you have five minutes.

Also of note: Kate's twitter posts from this morning also indicate she has received threatening emails following the video[2], which is sadly not surprising.

1: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2017/06/26/the-u...

2: https://twitter.com/mcmansionhell/status/879422526698532865

Re: Zillow forces McMansion Hell to delete posts

#59

On what grounds can they sue? Isn't this pure free speech? It looks like the only references to Zillow ever are citations that the photos come from their website http://www.mcmansionhell.com/search/zillow

Well, it's now immortalized as a hash in IPFS. Good luck censoring that.

http://gateway.ipfs.io/ipfs/QmeLsfKxF4dhmyX2FSGotaDPmMEqe8p3...

UPDATED HASH: http://gateway.ipfs.io/ipfs/QmUayNU49TWHMid6pSEBSKPAHsxJkTnd...

There's still a few hits going to Tumblr and fonts.gstatic.com , but all the actual content is safely inside IPFS and being served from in there. I'll let someone else rip the external calls out.

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