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Re: A chef who’s debunking detox, diets and wellness

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Post by smt88 » Sun, Jun 25, 2017, 4:02 PM UTC

devoply wrote: post #10

smt88 wrote: post #5

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That's a social issue/argument. Does it make his scientific claims invalid?

Well it does not seem to me that he's making any scientific claims, just opinionated claims. Which is his right, just as much as it's might right to voice my own opinionated claims as a eater of food.

He makes many claims that are based on science (e.g. nutritional value of various ingredients, health effects of food processing, etc.) Do his social views make his analysis of those studies invalid?

Re: A chef who’s debunking detox, diets and wellness

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Post by mistermann » Sun, Jun 25, 2017, 4:49 PM UTC

akytt wrote: post #23

mistermann wrote: post #8

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Most anything I've read most people's "stats" (cholesterol, blood pressure) improve once on a keto diet.

Where did you read that? How many were in the sample, how long was the diet, was it a double-blind test, what was the significance of the find? That's exactly his point: people write a lot of stuff on the internet that they believe or think is true. It might even work on them because of placebo efect. But it does mean these statements are facts.

The burden of proof is identical on the other side as well, so until then the conclusion is null and all we have are anecdotal stories, of which there are a lot.

It's interesting to see the emotional attachment naysayers have to low carb diets. I can understand advocates having an emotional attachment due to how it has changed their lives in a positive way, often after years if not decades of failure, but the strong emotional response it invokes in people whose lives are literally not affected in any way but are for some reason strongly repulsed by the very idea, almost as if there is something within the human psyche. Very interesting.

Re: A chef who’s debunking detox, diets and wellness

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Post by chiefalchemist » Mon, Jun 26, 2017, 1:01 PM UTC

Toxic or not, sugar is unnecessary. Just look around. It's not healthy, literally, to allow people to believe sugar is okay. The context matters. And in the context of most people's diet and lifestyle giving up sugar is probably the quickest and smartest thing they can do.

Else, we have the status quo. Clearly, that's not working.