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Re: Atom 1.18 released

#51
post #23

I prefer Notepad++. On Linux, Geany is a viable alternative.... If I need an IDE, I will get an IDE. I want my text editor to be as lightweight as possible. This was not the case with Atom.

I eventually gave up on Notepad++ because I became increasingly frustrated with the syntax highlighting inconsistencies.

I was trying to get Solarized Markdown highlighting working.

Edit: I lie, it was Twilight [0]

I just wanted to get that working with Markdown - but there are just so many limitations with the syntax highlighting system and I was always making tradoffs.

I switched to Sublime (cross platform, prettier, more performant, fuzzy finding, better highlighting, better shortcuts, better plugins - but closed source) and then to Vim (cross platform + ssh, open source, PITA to learn but gains from the more programmable way of editing, the potential to match or better most aspects of ST)

[0]: https://github.com/ianchanning/Notepad---Markdown-Highlighti...

Re: Atom 1.18 released

#52
Wonder if it changes anything significanly. It would really have to to change my opinion. It always felt very slow to me even on killer hardware.

This page quantifies it. https://github.com/jhallen/joes-sandbox/tree/master/editor-p...

I don't so much care about memory consumption. It can be 5 to 10 times as much as Sublime... I am RAM to spare. What I do care about is that a lot of these tests are 20 times SLOWER than Sublime (which can already be considered a heavy-weight editor)

Re: Atom 1.18 released

#53
post #4

Please, don't consider this a troll question (I personally am a vim kind of guy), but is there any reason to use Atom over VSCode these days? The sole reason to me seems that VSCode is developed by the "evil" Microsoft. Other than that, most people I know who tried Atom switched to VSCode or (back to) Sublime in the end.

https://github.com/jhallen/joes-sandbox/tree/master/editor-p...

Re: Atom 1.18 released

#54
post #28
post #4

Please, don't consider this a troll question (I personally am a vim kind of guy), but is there any reason to use Atom over VSCode these days? The sole reason to me seems that VSCode is developed by the "evil" Microsoft. Other than that, most people I know who tried Atom switched to VSCode or (back to) Sublime in the end.

I'm using Atom now for Go and never really tried VSCode. What would be the reason to switch?

I find Atom for Go very slow. It feels sluggish, startup time is slow. Sometimes scrolling is lagging, it uses tons of memory (> 1GB to edit 3 text files...).

I switched to Sublime from Atom recently after about 2 years and I'm happy.

Re: Atom 1.18 released

#55
post #5
post #4

Please, don't consider this a troll question (I personally am a vim kind of guy), but is there any reason to use Atom over VSCode these days? The sole reason to me seems that VSCode is developed by the "evil" Microsoft. Other than that, most people I know who tried Atom switched to VSCode or (back to) Sublime in the end.

I switched back to Sublime after a while, Atom was so slow to start, at least when I first tried it out in ~2014 (2015?). Sublime loads in like 100ms on all my machines. I'm also the vim kind tho, but when I browse large datasets and dumps I use Sublime.

I could never really enjoy vim in a graphical context - but whenever I have to edit inside a terminal I'm super productive with it. I also stay mostly on Sublime, and never liked vim emulation - my brain doesn't engage in vi mode there.

Re: Atom 1.18 released

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Used to use Atom over VS Code, but for whatever reason VS Code just feels more like a lightweight IDE than a text editor. I don't consider it a text editor by default because it comes with debugging and other features. The fact that it's called Visual STUDIO Code tells me it's not necessarily lightweight which I'm fine with. Visual Studio Code has amazing D and Rust plugins that are better than programming D in most…

Amazing D plugin? Which one? I have one plugin installed (don't remember which one now, I have it at home) and while it's acceptable, I wouldn't call it amazing. It doesn't do autocomplete from dub packages, it doesn't have any refactoring features.

Not sure if it does autocomplete of dub packages[0] but it has most features other plugins on other editors lack[1].

[0]: https://marketplace.visualstudio.com/items?itemName=webfreak...

[1]: https://wiki.dlang.org/Editors

Re: Atom 1.18 released

#58
post #4

Please, don't consider this a troll question (I personally am a vim kind of guy), but is there any reason to use Atom over VSCode these days? The sole reason to me seems that VSCode is developed by the "evil" Microsoft. Other than that, most people I know who tried Atom switched to VSCode or (back to) Sublime in the end.

Atom is free. Sublime costs $70. Plus, Atom comes with several lovely features Sublime doesn't have. Pay less, get more? Great deal! It's funny to catch friends looking at Sublime's payment popup window. I always joke, "oh, you're still evaluating?" Of course they're not evaluating. They're never going to pay for it. What a nuisance.

Atom has excellent window management. It's very easy to drag a tab and split it half-and-half with any other window horizontally or vertically. Amazing! Sublime doesn't do this.

Atom allows me to rearrange files in the left-nav. I can drag a file from one directory to another. Sublime doesn't do this.

Those two simple features alone are killer features for me. I don't see why Sublime doesn't copy them.

I understand Sublime has some cool multiple cursor stuff. My friend has definitely wowed me with a specific example before. I use vim motions inside Atom, which are great, and I'll occasionally open a file in native vim if I want to use more powerful features like recording macros.

Sublime's code-preview side-bar is semi-useful. It definitely looks pretty. I used an Atom plugin that emulated that behavior but ultimately disabled it to gain screen real estate. Also, long files with redundant code blocks (that looks oh-so pretty in that side bar) is bad code! Keep files short, gain screen real estate, and there you go! I swear, I worked with someone who used Sublime and he wrote the longest, most redundant code I've ever seen. I assumed he loved looking at the code in that preview side bar. I admit: the experience left a bad taste in my mouth.

Those are my reasons for using Atom over Sublime. Sorry I don't have enough experience with VSCode to answer your actual question!

Re: Atom 1.18 released

#59
post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As someone who switched from Atom to VSCode some time ago, I'm yet to find anything that VSCode doesn't have – are there any notable examples where Atom is ahead of the curve or is it just that it has more plugins?

UI themes, and a much more cohesive default theme

This is the best theme on VS Code I've found so far. Lovely. https://marketplace.visualstudio.com/items?itemName=azemoh.t...

Re: Atom 1.18 released

#60
post #4

Please, don't consider this a troll question (I personally am a vim kind of guy), but is there any reason to use Atom over VSCode these days? The sole reason to me seems that VSCode is developed by the "evil" Microsoft. Other than that, most people I know who tried Atom switched to VSCode or (back to) Sublime in the end.

I started out with Atom even though it was slower than VSCode because of its richer plugin ecosystem, but these days VSCode has all the plugins I need so I've switched to it full time and haven't looked back and it's even mostly replaced local vim for me, which Atom never did because it was so slow.
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