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Re: Dasung Paperlike Pro: E-Ink Monitor with HDMI connector [video]

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Post by Animats »

Is this for real? "1233% funded on July 2, 2016", and they're not shipping 11 months later. They're not making e-ink panels; they just add a bezel and controller. The actual display may be an E-Ink Mobius.[1] That's 1600x1200 pixels on a 13.3" panel. The prototype they're showing may come from the dev kit for E-Ink. They'd just need to add an HDMI interface and repurpose a case from some other display.

E-Ink is a neat technology, but it still costs far too much per unit area compared to competing technologies. That's why big E-Ink displays are so rare.

[1] http://www.eink.com/display_products_mobius.html

Re: Dasung Paperlike Pro: E-Ink Monitor with HDMI connector [video]

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Post by tinco »

mrob wrote: post #16
rrggrr wrote: post #6

Gosh. I would buy this in a second if the price was a bit less and I was sure the durability/lifespan was good. The reduced eye strain benefits. I really want this.

What's the mechanism of action behind the reduced eye strain, and why is e-ink needed to achieve it? Lack of flicker? True of any non-PWMed monitor. Reduced brightness or contrast? Conventional displays can be turned down to match e-ink. Lack of subpixels? High DPI displays make subpixels invisible under normal circumstances. Smoother spectrum white? I doubt this makes a difference, but it's not completely implausibl…

Reduced brightness at maintained contrast.

Re: Dasung Paperlike Pro: E-Ink Monitor with HDMI connector [video]

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Post by jpindar »

upofadown wrote: post #29

> "No blue light" Well no light of any type really. If your room light source has blue light then you get blue light. The difference here is that you normally can't adjust the colour balance of your room light. You usually can dim down the blue light on a light emitting display.

BTW, Phillips Hue lights, which do let you adjust the color balance of your room light, are great. Even if you don't go for obviously colored light, just being able to change the color temperature of white light is nice.

Re: Dasung Paperlike Pro: E-Ink Monitor with HDMI connector [video]

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Post by j_s »

gravypod wrote: post #4
keehun wrote: post #3

Here's their real website: http://www.dasung.com/english/ I cannot wait for the day when large e-ink displays are cheap, or as cheap as normal screens, and have faster refresh rates.

I just want an 8.5" x 11" version that is portable, runs Linux, and can open PDFs. For reading papers you wouldn't be able to beat it.

Ask HN: Cheap, hackable e-reader? | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13863046

E Ink announces a full color electrophoretic ePaper display | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11766073

https://GetRemarkable.com $480 pre-order | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13113819

Re: Dasung Paperlike Pro: E-Ink Monitor with HDMI connector [video]

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Post by WaxProlix »

akavel wrote: post #18

I wonder why Pixel Qi didn't become popular enough to fit this niche and not die as a company - seems to have many benefits over e-ink, including refresh rate and some colors: https://the-digital-reader.com/2015/01/12/reports-death-pixe...

As someone who jumped at the chance to have the best of all possible worlds and snagged up a NI Adam on release day, I can tell you that the display was harder to get used to than I'd expected. View angle was a bit odd, and all of the qualities you'd want from a color display suffered a little.

That said, it wasn't the thing that killed the Adam - that was the weird approach to PR combined with lack of delivery on device-specific software.

Re: Dasung Paperlike Pro: E-Ink Monitor with HDMI connector [video]

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Post by agentultra »

A purpose-built laptop that just runs emacs at init and uses one of these as the display. I would buy one so hard.

Hoping the ReMarkable will be simple enough hack that I could hook it up to my own cloud and use it as a terminal device. Would be nice to sketch lemmas in my handwriting and have a gesture recognition system pick it up and run it past a theorem prover, get back results. etc.

I'm awaiting the arrival of e-ink displays on laptops.

Re: Dasung Paperlike Pro: E-Ink Monitor with HDMI connector [video]

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Post by BHSPitMonkey »

roesel wrote: post #42
anotheryou wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How does backlit of reflected make a difference? Light comes of the screen/projection and hits the eye. I don't see how the light would change with that bounce by projection.

If you don't wish to look at reflected light either, in that case you might as well be blind :). Even from en e-ink screen, you are watching reflected light from another source arriving into your eyes _after_ reflecting from the e-ink screen.

The thing is, unless you're in a blackout room like a theater, there will be other sources of light already reaching the reading surface. In order to overpower the existing light enough that the contrast ratio between text and background is strain-free, you'd often need to crank up the intensity of one or the other to the point that it starts to become as uncomfortable as looking at a traditional display.

Re: Dasung Paperlike Pro: E-Ink Monitor with HDMI connector [video]

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Post by mynewtb »

gravypod wrote: post #22
fragmede wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sony makes one, https://www.sony.com/electronics/digital-paper-notepad for $700 but it's a product being sold to consumers, so tinkering with the underlying OS (reputed to be Linux, in the form of Android) isn't supported. (There are a number of other 8.5"x11" eink PDF readers out there.)

The Digital Paper Notepad is a discontinued product. What other 8.5"x11" eink readers are there?

They are releasing the successor this month.

Re: Dasung Paperlike Pro: E-Ink Monitor with HDMI connector [video]

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Post by Numberwang »

agentultra wrote: post #56

A purpose-built laptop that just runs emacs at init and uses one of these as the display. I would buy one so hard. Hoping the ReMarkable will be simple enough hack that I could hook it up to my own cloud and use it as a terminal device. Would be nice to sketch lemmas in my handwriting and have a gesture recognition system pick it up and run it past a theorem prover, get back results. etc. I'm awaiting the arrival of…

You speak my language. Another thing I want is an e-ink only phone. I think for sure there is a market for that type of device.
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