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iOS 11 Location Privacy: "Only While Using" is now always an option for users

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Re: iOS 11 Location Privacy: "Only While Using" is now always an option for users

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Post by iddqd »

jen729w wrote: post #50
Pamar wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I am not completely sure I understand what you want to accomplish, but I think you might find Moves ( https://moves-app.com/ ) useful.

Or Life Cycle by Northcube. Kinda amazing.

Seconding Life Cycle. Only stores the collected data on-device.

Re: iOS 11 Location Privacy: "Only While Using" is now always an option for users

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Post by masklinn »

winteriscoming wrote: post #6

I like all the new things coming in iOS11, including this. I recently got my first iPhone and it's on iOS10. Do users like me get to upgrade just the OS on the same handset when they release iOS11? I haven't found the answer to this on some of the apple articles I have browsed.

> I like all the new things coming in iOS11, including this.

Killing 32b-only-applications i do not like :/

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Post by matthewmacleod »

hutattedonmyarm wrote: post #42
vlozko wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Apple's API don't discriminate with regards to precision. An app that shows nearby stores with a 1km radius precision requires the same level of permissions as an app that's trying to do 1m precision.

What about the desiredAccuracy property of CLLocationManager [1]? [1] https://developer.apple.com/documentation/corelocation/clloc...

There is no specific permission for accuracy, which I think was the point there.

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Post by matthewmacleod »

tfoil2 wrote: post #4
gigatexal wrote: post #3

Fantastic. Screw Uber for only having the option to always use or never use.

Screw any app that really thinks it needs my precise coordinates in the foreground, let alone the background. Turn-by-turn directions in maps is the only exception I've found in 10 years of iPhone use.

Off the top of my head, any app involving directions – public transport, say – can reasonably use precise coordinates. Uber is also a reasonable use-case (when you want it to use that data) given the density of some city streets. Then there are location-sharing apps generally, or apps where you want to check in to locations (maybe a bit fuzzier, but there could be a lot of taggable locations within say 500m), or camera applications, or geocaching, or…

It's great to have control, and it would be even better if we were able to specify the accuracy an app is able to achieve. But there are obviously some reasonable use-cases for both foreground and background tracking.

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Post by macintux »

masklinn wrote: post #52
winteriscoming wrote: post #6

I like all the new things coming in iOS11, including this. I recently got my first iPhone and it's on iOS10. Do users like me get to upgrade just the OS on the same handset when they release iOS11? I haven't found the answer to this on some of the apple articles I have browsed.

> I like all the new things coming in iOS11, including this. Killing 32b-only-applications i do not like :/

I may have to replace my home security cameras because Swann doesn't seem to care about the app that allows me to watch them.

Re: iOS 11 Location Privacy: "Only While Using" is now always an option for users

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Post by apexalpha »

I hope this comes to Android. I always thought it worked like this until someone showed me: https://www.google.com/maps/timeline?pb

I see way more locations and rides than I actually navigated to with Maps. For most of the time, it is just installed.

I now manually disable all location services.

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Post by pthreads »

breatheoften wrote: post #41

Yay! I almost always use lyft now because Uber only allowed the "always on/never" location options. Occasionally I'd be somewhere where Uber was the only option and it was annoying to go into location services and manually perform what should be a system function ...

I wouldn't even turn it on when Uber was the only option. I would enter the street address manually.

Re: iOS 11 Location Privacy: "Only While Using" is now always an option for users

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Post by jclardy »

rimliu wrote: post #43
laingc wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As a concrete example, iOS10 runs reasonably well on my spare iPhone 5, which is coming up on 6 years old.

However iOS11 won't be supported on iPhone 5 and earlier, i.e. on 32bit devices. Only iPhone 5s and up.

To put it into context - the iPhone 5 was in competition with the Galaxy S III and Galaxy Nexus at launch.

Re: iOS 11 Location Privacy: "Only While Using" is now always an option for users

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Post by jclardy »

c517402 wrote: post #34
yakult wrote: post #32

Do apps still have access to location history data? If so this is a nothingburger.

Exactly my question. Buried deep in location services is a frequently visited locations that apps have access to even if they only have access "only while using." http://www.iphonehacks.com/2016/10/how-to-turn-off-hidden-fe...

Yes that exists, but you are wrong about the permission requirement. CLVisit is meant to be a lower power alternative to always tracking, but still requires the same “always” permission: https://developer.apple.com/documentation/corelocation/getti...
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