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Barcelona cracks down on Airbnb rentals with illegal apartment squads

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Re: Barcelona cracks down on Airbnb rentals with illegal apartment squads

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I'm planning to visit Barcelona. Seeing all those anti-tourist signs makes me wonder if I'll be welcome there. It's funny how people of a city who earn lots of money from tourists hate the tourists this much!

You're very welcome to visit Barcelona! Please excuse those radicals, they don't represent us :-)

Re: Barcelona cracks down on Airbnb rentals with illegal apartment squads

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I'm sure you are welcoming, but when the streets are painted with anti tourist messaging, then "you'll be more than welcome" sounds a bit hollow.

The streets aren't painted with tourist messaging. Some streets have some anti-tourist graffiti. Teenage edge-lord shitheads are a world-wide phenomenon. If you don't want to visit Barcelona because of some graffiti, you'd better stay inside your house 24/7 in Chicago for fear of being shot.

You won't find anti-tourist graffiti in Chicago, New York, LA, San Francisco, or Las Vegas.

Re: Barcelona cracks down on Airbnb rentals with illegal apartment squads

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I'm sure you are welcoming, but when the streets are painted with anti tourist messaging, then "you'll be more than welcome" sounds a bit hollow.

I've been in Barcelona multiple times over the last few years and it's one of my favorite cities. There are few places where the locals are as accommodating towards tourists but there are limits to how big a proportion of tourists : citizens you can have before there have to be some rules. The fact that rent prices have jumped up tremendously to the point where locals are pushed out of Barcelona to make way for yet m…

I've lived in a handful of "next hot thing" towns. In the United States and Canada and have yet to see anti-tourist stories that seem to originate out of parts of Europe.

Re: Barcelona cracks down on Airbnb rentals with illegal apartment squads

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I've been in Barcelona multiple times over the last few years and it's one of my favorite cities. There are few places where the locals are as accommodating towards tourists but there are limits to how big a proportion of tourists : citizens you can have before there have to be some rules. The fact that rent prices have jumped up tremendously to the point where locals are pushed out of Barcelona to make way for yet m…

I've lived in a handful of "next hot thing" towns. In the United States and Canada and have yet to see anti-tourist stories that seem to originate out of parts of Europe.

Which "next hot thing" touristic towns are there in USA and Canada?

Re: Barcelona cracks down on Airbnb rentals with illegal apartment squads

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Barcelona has had a huge market for apartment sharing since long before Airbnb. I travelled there in 2000 and remember stepping off the train into the train station and being bombarded with people offering a room to stay in their place for a reasonable fee. As I knew from research this was going to happen that's exactly what I planned on doing. I picked the most trustworthy-seeming person I could find and stayed in their place for a week. Had an amazing time.

Full credit to Airbnb for bringing this process into the digital/smartphone age, but the roots for this in some cities, like Barcelona, was always there.

Re: Barcelona cracks down on Airbnb rentals with illegal apartment squads

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Which I agree with. Airbnb is great when it's not run for profit. People purchasing second homes to rent out are ruining nice places.

Out the of the five I stayed in the past four years, they've all been second homes rented out with the exception of one in Portland, Maine.

Ive stayed in what could only be called illegal hotels in NYC. In one case I was furnished with keys in a real estate/property mgmt office. Probably depends a lot on your price point tbh.

Re: Barcelona cracks down on Airbnb rentals with illegal apartment squads

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post #54

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I've lived in a handful of "next hot thing" towns. In the United States and Canada and have yet to see anti-tourist stories that seem to originate out of parts of Europe.

Which "next hot thing" touristic towns are there in USA and Canada?

Paris, Texas!

Re: Barcelona cracks down on Airbnb rentals with illegal apartment squads

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> Anti-tourist graffiti has begun to appear, with “No tourists past this point” painted on a street in the old city and “Why call it tourist season if we can’t shoot them?” near the popular Park Güell. In recent weeks, several hotels have also been attacked with stones and paint bombs. Wow. This is shocking when Barcelona is a city that earns a sizable chunk of revenue from tourism. The annual report published by the…

Anti-tourist movement in Barcelona is a minority, mainly from extreme-left parties and activists from Catalan nationalist parties. I live in Barcelona, and I'm ashamed of those xenophobic acts. My guess is that over 90% of Barcelona population don't endorse such xenophobic attitude. Despite being affected personally, e.g. because of tourism flat rental makes generic rental to have huge price increases (15% year to ye…

> Anti-tourist movement in Barcelona is a minority, mainly from extreme-left parties and activists from Catalan nationalist parties.

This is not true. And you can look at the report through page 155 and you will see who and why is in discomfort with such amount of tourism in their neighbourhoods.

Re: Barcelona cracks down on Airbnb rentals with illegal apartment squads

#59
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No, because of tourist rentals are not enough for covering the local demand, the problem is 10x bigger. Regarding people needs, in my opinion the problem is that people in charge in local government (Barcelona city) is not focused in solving the problems, but in agitprop for increasing their own power (currently the extreme-left is governing Barcelona in minority). Also, regional government (Catalonia) is focused in…

Extreme left?

Sure

Re: Barcelona cracks down on Airbnb rentals with illegal apartment squads

#60
post #47

No, because of tourist rentals are not enough for covering the local demand, the problem is 10x bigger. Regarding people needs, in my opinion the problem is that people in charge in local government (Barcelona city) is not focused in solving the problems, but in agitprop for increasing their own power (currently the extreme-left is governing Barcelona in minority). Also, regional government (Catalonia) is focused in…

Thank you for clarifying.

As a Barcelona citizen, I was with the impression that Spain's central government furious attack against Catalonia people's right to self-determination was to simply to distract the fact that the central government party (Partido Popular) has over 900 politicians currently on trial with charges of corruption (more than any other party in the whole Europe).

In fact, I thought central government's current situation was great material for a potential sequel of a great movie. The sequel could be called "Wag the Dog 2" with Robert de Niro as adviser of central goverment's president Mariano Rajoy, who as you know will be forced to declare in one these trials for corruption.

So, in your opinion the best solution for Barcelona is that Spain's central government should take over and fix our housing issues in Barcelona?

Thanks in advance for elaborating on the reasons why you think it is a good idea after the chaos they created in Barcelona's airport with something much simpler as passport control.

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