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Re: McDonald's delivery to be available in 3,500 restaurants by the end of June

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Yeah... a lack of delivery WAS the reason I had been avoiding McDonalds.

This. The people eating McDonalds and the people paying for food delivery are not the same people. I'm pretty sure their intersection is statistically insignificant.

How do you account for low end pizza delivery chains? I assume the pizza hut and dominoes market would overlap heavily with a McDonald's ordering market.

Re: McDonald's delivery to be available in 3,500 restaurants by the end of June

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I assume he means the fuzzy sense of the term that includes being part of a large chain. Most people's usage ofthe term doesn't include holes in the wall and language is obviously determined by usage.

I believe the commenter you responded is aware of the colloquial distinction, and is gently asserting a point that this distinction is not to be believed. Regardless of the cultural zeitgeist about food preparation by large chains, food from McDonald's is qualitatively the same as food from many fast food restaurants that try to market themselves as above fast food.

> and is gently asserting a point that this distinction is not to be believed.

> McDonald's is qualitatively the same as food from many fast food restaurants that try to market themselves as above fast food.

This assumes incorrectly that the only use of the distinction is a one-dimensional measure of quality. A couple of uses for the distinction that have nothing to do with "quality":

1) I don't tend to eat at chain restaurants much because I don't tend to eat at the same restaurants much (ie, I really like variety). This was pretty much true even for the few years that I ate every single weekend meal at restaurants (or takeout).

2) Part of chain restaurants' explicit goal is mass appeal and consistency of taste. Practically by definition, you're less likely to find the niche of flavor that appeals to you the most directly, or even as high a level of novelty and diversity of flavor as you would if going to holes in the wall.

3) I'm cheating a little bit making this a separate bullet pt, but #2 works the other way as well, since some people explicitly prefer consistency of flavor and knowing exactly what to expect to being adventurous about flavors and tastes. This isn't a value judgment: I had a girlfriend who described her taste as preferring bland food and there's no real basis for me to claim that I had "better" taste than her.

It occurs to me that these examples are all pretty tightly related to the notion of chain restaurants providing consistency and mass appeal, but that doesn't really change my point at all.

Re: McDonald's delivery to be available in 3,500 restaurants by the end of June

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Considering the cost of UberEats delivery (5$ in Canada, 40 pesos in Mexico) Doesn't seem like it's worth ordering food the quality of McDonalds

I see this "quality" thing mentioned time and again about McDonald's, somehow assumed because McDonald's is a giant "fast food" joint. I have commented about this in the past [1]. Here's a brief recap:

- McDonald's gives you consistent quality, taste and nutrition.

- It's fast.

- It's (food) safe.

- They provide nutritional info on all their products.

Until you can acquire nutritional info on the food sold by the hip joint you're fond of, you can't know if it's of a higher "quality" or healthy for that matter.

I also assume you don't mean "taste" when talking about quality.

[1]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10654493

Re: McDonald's delivery to be available in 3,500 restaurants by the end of June

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Ultimately, McDonalds will have to transition to being a full-service vending machine. Realistically, in an automated world, their flesh-and-blood employees provide negative value. I wish dearly that I could just enter my own order on the POS system when I am in such places

> I wish dearly that I could just enter my own order on the POS system when I am in such places

As others have mentioned, they already have in several places. The UI is horrible and confusing though, you have to find the picture of the burger you're after, like selecting a netflix movie, which is even worse with McDonalds because the picture looks nothing like what you get.

Much like self serve checkouts they increase time but move that cost onto the customer.

Re: McDonald's delivery to be available in 3,500 restaurants by the end of June

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

This. The people eating McDonalds and the people paying for food delivery are not the same people. I'm pretty sure their intersection is statistically insignificant.

McDonalds probably has better research on their own business than you do. They wouldn't do this unless they believed it would be worthwhile.

Do they? They've had some epic disasters over the years. Their whole approach to product creation seems to be "throw mud at the wall and see what sticks".

Re: McDonald's delivery to be available in 3,500 restaurants by the end of June

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McDonalds isn't doing delivery. Third parties are doing delivery. Doordash delivers KFC, Jack in the Box, and Panda Express in Silicon Valley as their fast food choices. With Doordash, don't order anything you can't reheat when it shows up. That's the trouble with these low-end delivery services. They're not using a vehicle with hot and cold storage. It's just some sucker's car.

I'm not sure if it's third party, but here in Japan aost all 'western' fast food offers delivery. (Note I don't eat that crap so I have never ordered it, but I see their badged delivery going around a lot).

Re: McDonald's delivery to be available in 3,500 restaurants by the end of June

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So what happens when they put pickles on a burger ordered without them /s The big issue with fast food is cost. It's usually eaten by those in a rush and the poor. It just seems ridiculous how complicated and expensive the menus gotten. Even with the coffee, which they seem to be pushing hard. Is now obfuscated under 100 unnecessary drinks.

Poor person here. Inflation has made it so it's not even really an option. Everyone has removed their dollar menu and jacked up the price which is what I order off of if I was in a hurry. It's cheaper and effective for me to the burrito hole in the wall and get a massive burrito for 4 bucks than go to any fast food place.

I have a (serious) question, why don't you cook yourself? Is it more expensive to cook in your location? Lack of time? I have heard this argument a lot and am honestly wondering (I'm not from the us, I'm a chef, so for me things may be a lot different, hence the question).

Re: McDonald's delivery to be available in 3,500 restaurants by the end of June

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McDonalds may not be bespoke, but it's consistent. A Big Mac tastes the same from downtown Manhattan to rural Podunk. There's a definite market for people who want that and don't/can't/won't make the drive.

Not to mention drunk 20-somethings that are responsible enough to not get behind the wheel.

Its anecdata with a small sample size, but I can confirm you don't have to be aged 20-29 to be drunk and want to eat McD.

Re: McDonald's delivery to be available in 3,500 restaurants by the end of June

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

McDonalds probably has better research on their own business than you do. They wouldn't do this unless they believed it would be worthwhile.

Do they? They've had some epic disasters over the years. Their whole approach to product creation seems to be "throw mud at the wall and see what sticks".

It's 10% throwing the mud, 90% knowing where to throw it.

Re: McDonald's delivery to be available in 3,500 restaurants by the end of June

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Totally true, I don't know where people get the idea that only the poor eat McDonald's, being able to grab something quick and consistent is an extremely handy thing. Their breakfast is quite tasty and cheap too. Maybe I'm in the minority, but most of the time food quality is not the #1 most important thing when I eat, speed is more often a consideration for me, I find myself going "well, I can sit down at a restaura…

Tell me that in 5 years.

I think the perception that there is no way to be healthy and eat at McDonald's is kind of ridiculous. I ride my bike 20 miles a day, I play basketball, I go for walks during lunch. I drink a ton of water, go to the doctor regularly.

Eating a McDonald's breakfast isn't going to kill me. Honestly, some of the 'healthy' foods I see people eating are way worse. There might be a ton of salt, but it's not loaded with carbohydrates and sugars.

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