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I don't get it. Lets say that you have a well formed team, then you have a designer. A designer is who does the UI but know or care so little about programming. With React, the UI is practically JSX that very few people know (in comparison with html) and what we will get instead?, the result is the same html that it tries to avoid.
Things you're sacrificing when going away from React: 1. Stability. FB uses it for their main product, which is probably the biggest web app of them all, they pay many devs to work fulltime on it. People coming from Angular, who had to migrate all those breaking changes over the years know the struggle. 2. Options like React-Native, React-VR and co. React enables your devs to acquire a whole new range of possibilitie…
Its what they use right now, who knows what is coming down the pipeline?
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Mobile Twitter uses React. https://mobile.twitter.com/facebook Airbnb uses React https://www.airbnb.com.au/rooms/432044 Facebook, Facebook Messenger, Instagram, Netflix, Reddit Mobile, new Reddit Profile pages are all high profile sites using React that aren't just 'backend dashboards'.
Interesting. The ones not behind a login (Twitter,AirBnB,Reddit Mobile) are sites that feel laggy and clunky to me. With slow loading content, loading animations, laggy scrolling, too much stuff opening in new tabs, confusing interfaces. I wonder if React causes/incentivises this or if it's design decisions by the coders/designers/managers. In contrast, pages like Reddit Desktop, Google and Amazon work much better fo…
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Redux has been from the same github org for a very long time too: https://github.com/reactjs/redux And react-router, while not being on the same github, is pretty much considered a standard too. It's ok to not split hairs for vue.js, but then you shouldn't do the same for react...
react-router, do you mean v1, v2, v3, or v4 (or perhaps v5 and v6, I haven't checked if there was a new release with breaking API changes during the past 12 hours).
You might as well just write your own react-router implementation for every react project you work on.
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Reddit's new profile pages and their mobile web app both use react.
These? https://www.reddit.com/user/spez Aren't those just static html pages rendered serverside? Is there a blog post about them or something?
The old pages like below:
https://www.reddit.com/user/HeinieKaboobler
Are server side rendered.
It's not a popular change. Mostly because of people feeling it'd pull focus from subreddits to profiles, but also some complaints about the performance loss and lower density: https://www.reddit.com/r/announcements/comments/60p3n1/tldr_...
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Mobile Twitter uses React. https://mobile.twitter.com/facebook Airbnb uses React https://www.airbnb.com.au/rooms/432044 Facebook, Facebook Messenger, Instagram, Netflix, Reddit Mobile, new Reddit Profile pages are all high profile sites using React that aren't just 'backend dashboards'.
Interesting. The ones not behind a login (Twitter,AirBnB,Reddit Mobile) are sites that feel laggy and clunky to me. With slow loading content, loading animations, laggy scrolling, too much stuff opening in new tabs, confusing interfaces. I wonder if React causes/incentivises this or if it's design decisions by the coders/designers/managers. In contrast, pages like Reddit Desktop, Google and Amazon work much better fo…
The new Reddit profile pages do not.
JS libraries (like React) are just tools developers have. They can make fast sites with them, and they can make slow sites with them. We use React because it makes it easier to optimise our site to make it load very fast.
What are good examples of popular websites (not behind a login) that make use of Vue or React? I ask because I keep reading about it, all programmers seem to use it, but I just don't come across websites that use it. Is it only used for backend dashboards? Or do all Vue/React sites fail to gain traction for some reason?
From https://slack.engineering/rebuilding-slacks-emoji-picker-in-...
> Rebuilding the Emoji Picker in React resulted in faster rendering and simplified code that’s easier to maintain. We’re extending these gains to the rest of our codebase by transitioning fully to React
Can't wait to see Slack's app be just as slow.
Our company migrated to vue.js, 4 months ago. Our complex app is messy with JSX, router, and new dev can't keep up with code. Now we start every new app with Vue.js. The gap between junior dev and senior dev comes closer. They can collaborate with less bugs, less problems and less time to develop.
Is it because of the technology or because of the team? Rhetorical question - I am by no means attacking you or your team, I just clicked on your "is messy with JSX, router" sentence and decided to put my reply under yours. I see many people tackling React but not developing in a 'React' way. For example I recently saw on HN some user complaining that he had to create N functions to handle N items on a form, while co…
also transitioning web developers from writing giant HTML pages to thinking about smaller components is a difficult, without dedicated react designer.
All these make non trivial react apps a graveyard of crappy jsx and messy untyped tangles of JavaScript code.
Things you're sacrificing when going away from React: 1. Stability. FB uses it for their main product, which is probably the biggest web app of them all, they pay many devs to work fulltime on it. People coming from Angular, who had to migrate all those breaking changes over the years know the struggle. 2. Options like React-Native, React-VR and co. React enables your devs to acquire a whole new range of possibilitie…
Previous instances of that pattern:
- three20 (used in FB ios app https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three20)
- GWT
- Angular is actually a similar instance of that problem, to some extent
If "large company" switches their goal at some point, then you're still alone.
Currently I'm kind of more confident (in some way) to the future stability of Vue, than of React (just a gut feeling, time will tell!).
I have (some) experience with both React and Vue 2 and definitely prefer the later. Vue is very minimalistic but unlike React provides a lot of functionality out of the box. Stuff like the router, the computed properties, automatic change detection, HTML templates, scoped css, animations, ... . But what's more important is the fact it does all these things in an extremely elegant and unobtrusive way. The computed pro…
> unlike React provides a lot of functionality out of the box. Stuff like the router, the computed properties, automatic change detection, I never studied Vue, but the article starts saying "Both have separate, but commonly used, router and state management libraries". This doesn't look like "out of the box" to me.