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Better than Free (2008)

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Re: Better than Free (2008)

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Post by wruza »

literallycancer wrote: post #45
wruza wrote: post #27

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Your view seems to be pretty shallow on why Nero was alive for so long while being a monster. One doesn't simply kill Nero and continue to rule TRE. Easy manipulation of "docile" public is an inseparable part of democracy, actually. Most people have little to no political education, not to mention the understanding of methods and processes. Most of us simply believe, because politics is boring, bread and circuses is…

>Easy manipulation of "docile" public is an inseparable part of democracy, actually. Most people have little to no political education, not to mention the understanding of methods and processes. But surely this is not a universal truth and can changed with time and effort?

Of course! Billions of people are interested in politics, just provide them some classes.

Re: Better than Free (2008)

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Post by wruza »

coldtea wrote: post #48
wruza wrote: post #27

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Your view seems to be pretty shallow on why Nero was alive for so long while being a monster. One doesn't simply kill Nero and continue to rule TRE. Easy manipulation of "docile" public is an inseparable part of democracy, actually. Most people have little to no political education, not to mention the understanding of methods and processes. Most of us simply believe, because politics is boring, bread and circuses is…

> Your view seems to be pretty shallow on why Nero was alive for so long while being a monster. One doesn't simply kill Nero and continue to rule TRE. It wasn't about "one simply killing Nero", it was about the people revolting and restoring the republic, which Rome once was. > Easy manipulation of "docile" public is an inseparable part of democracy, actually. Most people have little to no political education, not to…

Those citizens were not the majority in no countable sense. And many of them were in big charge in fact.

I'm not sure where this goes though. Our thing not meant to be understood good, nor bad. It is just a fact.

Re: Better than Free (2008)

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Post by moonforeshot »

adrianN wrote: post #32
petra wrote: post #29

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Those are simply much more important subjects for their votes than copyright.

Legalizing Marijuana is more important than copyright? I disagree. Copyright is about how we handle our cultural heritage and how we compensate those who produce those artifacts. To me that is a way more important topic than the war on drugs.

petra's just being cynical towards politicians...

Re: Better than Free (2008)

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Post by ASipos »

coldtea wrote: post #16
amelius wrote: post #7

Immediacy -- who really needs it? I mean, for a movie, just wait a few months and you can download it. If you don't want to wait, you still have to wait for the next movie to come out, so it makes no difference really. To say it another way: no matter where you are in the pipeline, you still have to wait the same amount of time for new data to arrive.

> Immediacy -- who really needs it? Needs it? Nobody. Who wants its? Billions. But nobody really needs music and movies either. > I mean, for a movie, just wait a few months and you can download it. You must be new to earth. > If you don't want to wait, you still have to wait for the next movie to come out, so it makes no difference really. No, it really does make a difference. Waiting for something that isn't yet av…

> You must be new to earth.

explain this

Re: Better than Free (2008)

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Post by Iv »

wruza wrote: post #26
Iv wrote: post #23

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Unexpectedly, we have managed to squash the initial carefree copying of the internet with just a few ridiculous court cases. Even the pirate bay founders are starting to feel tired of maintaining it.

Please correct me if I'm wrong, but to layman's cryptoanalyst like me, TPB and torrents in general seem like the easiest things to move entirely into blockchain-like network. Just embed it into torrent clients, done, right? Torrents are far more real, stable and necessary than some ethereal entities. Btw, afaik, entire tpb/kat archive is around few gigabytes.

Your crypto tools are as strong as the legal freedom to use them. The time is not that far when cryptography tools were considered like military ammunition and required licenses to export and handle.

Even as legal as they are today, crypto tools are really not widespread. Release the Tobacco & Firearms (and their respective equivalent in different countries) and their userbase will shrink into oblivion.

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