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> He repeatedly kicked Ms. Usoyan, 34, as she lay on the ground. According to New Jersey records, Mr. Yildirim is 50 and manages three companies in that state. Mr. Yildrim does not appear to have diplomatic immunity, so why aren't assault and battery charges being levied against him?
In this video of the attack: https://twitter.com/MahirZeynalov/status/865301089867923456 a bodyguard is seen talking to someone in the back of a car. That bodyguard nods to another bodyguard, who then walks towards the protest. The attack begins the second he arrives at the line. Later, the person in the back of the car gets out. It's Erdogan. This video didn't get as much press as it should have, I suppose since you…
I was honestly surprised that NYT did such a beautiful in depth analysis of videos and didn't have this video in there. How can you do an in depth research on that incident and not have this vital video? I wonder if with modern machine learning backed algorithms, we can do a semi-decent job at reading some of the lips in that video.
This same scenario happened last year outside the Brookings Institution. I suspect the reason why there's such good video coverage of this year's attack, is they were ready for it, based on what happened last year. In the short term, I agree with John McCain, the Turkish ambassador to the U.S. should be expelled over this event. What precedes all of this is the U.S. supports the YPG, which Erdogan considers a terrori…
I guess it's no longer viable to go to protests unarmed. Good to know.
Have you never seen examples of US police beating/gassing/hosing/shooting nonviolent protestors before?
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A good thought, and in most states, it would be your Constitutional right to do so. However, carrying a weapon is likely to attract additional attention and there's a good chance you'd wind up dead. You're going against a foreign military trained force, and they're probably not used to seeing a normal citizen exercise their civil liberties in such a way. I think peaceful assembly is probably the best approach, and le…
I am Turkish by origin, but have been living in USA for 7 years. I could vouch for the fact that it would make them feel threatened. They are definitely not aware of civil liberties and constitutional rights. Heck, they don't even know or understand what freedom of speech is.
One thing that I found intriguing as an engineer is that Ertogan's bodyguards etc are trying to shout louder than the protesters.
At first I thought ok thats natural, 2 parties have a disagreement and then each tries to be louder.
The sound from Ertogan's trained personnel thought isn't exactly an argument. You'll hear through the whole video the sound : 'EEEEEEEEEE' coming up from his bodyguards which is definitely not argument, just a way to mask protesters voice.
So to conclude my point, is that Ertogan has trained soldiers trying to shout louder than the protesters so he won't hear anything bad about him. Pretty much the same he is doing to his country by blocking wikipedia etc.
I can only think of one other person that would do such a thing, Kim.
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I'm guessing nothing will happen. I have no idea if diplomatic immunity applies, but also the president and Erdogan are friendly. And, we have a lot of contempt for protestors in our country.
One wanna-be dictator to another, my guess is nothing will happen.
America is in a sad, sad state when there is no recourse for something like this. What are we, afraid of diplomatically insulting an Islamist dictatorship?
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Well, that happens when a dictator visits a wannabe dictator. Erdogan and his goons obviously thought they'd be let off without any consequences for this - and indeed they were right. And I'm sure there won't be any consequences in the future - it's not a Trump thing to anger like-minded friends.
Turkey's strategic importance is nothing new, it's just where it is on the board.