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Re: Voten.co, a Real-Time Reddit Alternative Launches Public Beta

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Post by macey »

arjie wrote: post #18
macey wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A lot of people feel that Reddit is overmoderated - there was that controversy recently where one of the employees admitted manually altering a bunch of content (removing pro-Trump submissions and comments). Also I imagine any general forum like Reddit wouldn't retain its power users for more than a few years at most. At a given time, most users are either at the point where they don't get any of the inside jokes, or…

Haha, but any website whose audience is mostly that group rapidly becomes exclusively that group because normal people don't like them.

Lol. I was trying to say the nice version of this.

Re: Voten.co, a Real-Time Reddit Alternative Launches Public Beta

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Post by noway421 »

zzzzz_ wrote: post #16

Reddit is technology wise pretty simple - it's just one step up from a forum. So these guys have re-implemented a forum and added a stack of features that only a bunch of devs could come up with. Markdown support is mentioned twice at the top of the features list! Anyway this is a site by actual guys that used to work at Reddit so you'd expect them to be pretty smart business orientated chaps right? Well they launch,…

True. Most of it is about the first impression. If it would have presented me with bustling activity and pictures poping up real time (which it is supposed to do judging on what the link says) that would be whole different expireince I would remember.

But so far the reddit tile would never go away from the speed dial.

Re: Voten.co, a Real-Time Reddit Alternative Launches Public Beta

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Post by ue_ »

dkhenry wrote: post #31
KirinDave wrote: post #20

Has anyone signed up? It's very interesting what the first topics are. There is a #conservatism with 8 members already, but you can't make #liberalism, #communism or #leftists. "The_Donald" is "coming soon". (Edit: I must have hit a bug because I tried with a few names and my attempts just didn't do anything, but someone else did it immediately). I wonder if this is like Gab, an attempt to make a more single-issue-po…

I just signed up and created #liberalism to test it out. Worked just fine https://voten.co/c/liberalism

Me too, I've created #Communism, works for me too. I didn't like how I had to subscribe to other channels before it let me make my own, though.

https://voten.co/c/communism/

Re: Voten.co, a Real-Time Reddit Alternative Launches Public Beta

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Post by amorphid »

imran3740 wrote: post #38
dkhenry wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I dunno, with the recent changes reddit has been rolling out it is no longer a nice place to visit. There is so much hate and anger on the front page and so little good content. I could make an account, but it seems like they shadow ban everyone except for bots ( and not just for content, the last two times I was shadow banned it was because I logged in from my office IP address which they deemed was "gaming" votes )

Really? I've been on reddit for a few years now and there's plenty of enjoyable content on the frontpage and now /r/popular. Sure, there's always something about politics, but I think that's always been the case. As for shadowbanning, reddit is taking steps to get rid of that altogether [0], or at least they recognize that it's a bad system for actual users. [0]: https://www.reddit.com/r/announcements/comments/3sbrro…

I also like being able to filter out subreddits on /r/all. Every political cycle, I get bombarded w/ political news on /r/all. I filtered out all of the political content, including for candidates I like, and now I'm much happier! When I want political content, I seek it out, and it's kind of hard to avoid anyway.

Re: Voten.co, a Real-Time Reddit Alternative Launches Public Beta

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Post by SquareWheel »

imran3740 wrote: post #38
dkhenry wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I dunno, with the recent changes reddit has been rolling out it is no longer a nice place to visit. There is so much hate and anger on the front page and so little good content. I could make an account, but it seems like they shadow ban everyone except for bots ( and not just for content, the last two times I was shadow banned it was because I logged in from my office IP address which they deemed was "gaming" votes )

Really? I've been on reddit for a few years now and there's plenty of enjoyable content on the frontpage and now /r/popular. Sure, there's always something about politics, but I think that's always been the case. As for shadowbanning, reddit is taking steps to get rid of that altogether [0], or at least they recognize that it's a bad system for actual users. [0]: https://www.reddit.com/r/announcements/comments/3sbrro…

Reddit has already made large strides there. I see far fewer shadowbans today than I saw 1-2 years ago (based on sbanned posts caught in the modqueue).

Re: Voten.co, a Real-Time Reddit Alternative Launches Public Beta

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Post by codelitt »

I know a lot of people are rather pessimistic about a Reddit competitor gaining traction, but on a technology and UX note they've done a great job. I signed up on mobile and browsed around. The user experience is miles ahead of Reddit's new mobile web client. Pages load instantly, everything is smooth, scaled well, and no tiny text to click. Well executed IMHO.

Regarding being a Reddit competitor, if they can get the content well seeded and manage to allow unpopular opinions that are substantial then I would gladly switch. HN has done a fairly good job of not allowing downvotes into oblivion because someone disagrees with a popular opinion on the forum. It is not perfect, but better than Reddit. Unfortunately HN is more or less a single topic forum. I can't come here reliably for fishing discussions for example. Likewise, it would be great if Voten can figure out a way to disincentivize comments that are unconstructive or personal attacks but go along with the narrative (another problem I see on Reddit).

So in short, my hope for the founders is that they can attract good users, properly seed content until it takes off, and promote substantial and quality comments regardless of viewpoint. I think they could be a good alternative at a time when Reddit is becoming a victim of its own success.

Re: Voten.co, a Real-Time Reddit Alternative Launches Public Beta

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Post by seibelj »

tyingq wrote: post #2

"The app itself is powered by Laravel, Vue.js, Socket.io, and Node" Is there another Laravel other than the php one? Seems odd to roll out with both php and node.js. I don't know why you would need both. Edit: Yes, I see each has it's strengths. But that has to drive a lot of doing the same thing twice, in two languages...they both interact with the same data. I would guess time-to-market is important at launch to re…

Nothing wrong with PHP, just use the right tool for the job, and the right tool is based on existing skills, time to market, requirements, etc. If PHP fits the bill, use PHP

Re: Voten.co, a Real-Time Reddit Alternative Launches Public Beta

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Post by root_axis »

dkhenry wrote: post #15
imran3740 wrote: post #9

As with voat.co, who's gonna switch to this? Really the only people who switched over to Voat are the people who felt reddit was restricting their rights by posting controversial/hateful material on reddit. So it tends to be full of /pol-like MRAs/extreme right/alt-right users. Voten seems like it's trying to implement a more democratic system, but who will be pushed into switching over to that?

I dunno, with the recent changes reddit has been rolling out it is no longer a nice place to visit. There is so much hate and anger on the front page and so little good content. I could make an account, but it seems like they shadow ban everyone except for bots ( and not just for content, the last two times I was shadow banned it was because I logged in from my office IP address which they deemed was "gaming" votes )

> There is so much hate and anger on the front page and so little good content.

Absurd hyperbole. I mean, all someone has to do is just look at the front-page to see that this is false.

> it seems like they shadow ban everyone except for bots

Also absurd hyperbole.

You claim to have been banned because an admin or an algorithm incorrectly identified you as vote spamming, but I honestly don't believe it based on the rest of the content in your post.

Re: Voten.co, a Real-Time Reddit Alternative Launches Public Beta

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Post by moonshinefe »

zzzzz_ wrote: post #16

Reddit is technology wise pretty simple - it's just one step up from a forum. So these guys have re-implemented a forum and added a stack of features that only a bunch of devs could come up with. Markdown support is mentioned twice at the top of the features list! Anyway this is a site by actual guys that used to work at Reddit so you'd expect them to be pretty smart business orientated chaps right? Well they launch,…

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