Yes, if you used Spotify Beta it was very obvious. On release the library was reduced to a fragment of its former self. It was also something everyone said: "in the Beta they used the employees' MP3 libraries, that's why it used to be so good".
Spotify’s Beta Used ‘Pirate’ MP3 Files, Some from Pirate Bay
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#53One thing I noticed a few years ago, was that Spotify was using a massive amount more upload bandwidth than download. Upon digging it actually appeared they were streaming FROM my computer, similar to how a torrenting system works. I'm assuming their current platform is doing something similar. If this is indeed the case, they can stream music to everyone's phones / computers, then use their network to stream to thei…
I strongly suspect, but cannot prove, that Skype was also exfiltrating audio files from the clients PC at one time. When they opened their high-quality audio service the songs had clear artifacts of having been encoded more than once. If you had access to the original uncompressed audio stream, you'd simply encode a higher quality version. Many albums weren't available for high quality streaming at all. The logical e…
Plus, simpler reversing techniques like strace / Sysmon would have caught this sort of thing.
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#54Earlier quoted context omitted.
err... did you ever consider that perhaps those systems weren't actually powerful enough to support the "full" Killer Instinct experience, so there was no way for it not to seem "downgraded" from the real deal? (I was in my early 20's when that came out in the arcades. I remember it well)
The SNES certainly wasn't able to reproduce the arcade experience. The N64 should have been. Over the years, I have considered buying an old arcade cabinet just to re-experience the magic. I just need to find the space for it.
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#55Earlier quoted context omitted.
This is not a counterargument. P2P is not something that most people would understand and thus, including it in marketing materials would turn people off. Thus, not including it in marketing materials is not a sign of intentional deception. I can't go back in time but I bet if you googled "spotify p2p" or "spotify architecture" in 2012 you'd find a wealth of information on it
You, and several other people in this conversation, are trying to tell the person you originally replied to how to feel. They said nothing but "this is how I felt, this is why I stopped using it". If I had a bad experience with some software, I too would uninstall it, even if I'm told "but you see, you didn't experience it correctly".
If I mistakenly believed you killed my mother and shot you in the heat of the moment, would I be entitled to my feeling?
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#56Earlier quoted context omitted.
I was making that point, and ALSO the point that the perceived slight was purely in the eye of the beholder, I edited my comment to add a link to a 2011 academic paper on Spotify's P2P architecture that proves that they were not being cagey or secretive about this part of the design, it was already "out there" and if it just so happened to first cross this guy's radar when he saw the outbound traffic on his own netwo…
So now every ordinary person is going to read academic papers to ensure that a service or product meets decent moral and ethical standards? If it wasn't on their website designed for selling, then they don't really have an excuse. That is the spot where those kind of details should be mentioned.
I don't know what your standards are here but "an app that both sends and receives data from the Internet" pretty much describes every app in popular existence right now
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#57What does the author mean by this? "For a company that has attracting pirates built into its DNA, it’s perhaps fitting that it tempted them with the same bait found on pirate sites. Certainly, the company’s history of a pragmatic attitude towards piracy means that few will be shouting ‘hypocrites’ at the streaming platform now." What is this attitude to piracy that will prevent them from being called hypocrites? I do…
Piracy is also a form of convenience. What you want, when you want it. No stupid geographic delayed releases, no stupid DRM where you have to prove you're not a thief every time you want to access the content, no internet connectivity requirements, etc.
To be fair those haven't been issues with digital music purchases for a long time. Buying music couldn't be more convenient these days.
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#58Earlier quoted context omitted.
> hence I'll never go back. So basically, you're saying that since they (according to you) weren't plastering news about their P2P design across all their marketing (as if most people would even be able to understand that, from a marketing perspective), and DESPITE the fact that it was well-known enough for academic papers in 2011 to be written on the design ( http://pansentient.com/2011/04/spotify-technology-some-st…
I'm not telling you not to use their service, my wife (for example) continues to use Spotify. However, I personally will never use their service again. When they thought it was alright to use my network (that I pay for) to make money, then I have a right to turn my back on them. Questionable legality is one thing, I personally could care less about laws. I break probably 5 or 6 laws an hour. Laws have nothing to do a…
They are shady, few years ago they forced new users to have a fazebook account in order to sign up. I don't know how it is now, do they still?
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I hesitate to ask, but what did Nintendo do to justify this lifetime ban? ;) (also, I kind of want a Switch, but anyway)
The way they butchered what was my all-time favorite arcade game "Killer Instinct" with the SNES port and then KI Gold for the N64. I have never been able to forgive the company.
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#60Earlier quoted context omitted.
Piracy is also a form of convenience. What you want, when you want it. No stupid geographic delayed releases, no stupid DRM where you have to prove you're not a thief every time you want to access the content, no internet connectivity requirements, etc.
> No stupid geographic delayed releases, no stupid DRM where you have to prove you're not a thief every time you want to access the content, no internet connectivity requirements, etc. To be fair those haven't been issues with digital music purchases for a long time. Buying music couldn't be more convenient these days.