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The Turds Who Voted to Sell Out Your Online Privacy Get Their Faces Plastered

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Re: The Turds Who Voted to Sell Out Your Online Privacy Get Their Faces Plastered

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And nothing changes. They were unrecognizable nobodies before, and now they are unrecognizable nobodies with more money. They will become unrecognizable nobodies again, next week, or next month, or next year, and move right along with the rest of their lives. Conceptually, this is how legislation works. You start with politicians no one cares about, and you end with politicians no one cares about selling you out, bec…

And more to the point -- the time to trash pols is before elections, not after. By the time November 2018 rolls around, no one will remember or care about the Net Neutrality Sellout of 2017. Which is a bummer.

Re: The Turds Who Voted to Sell Out Your Online Privacy Get Their Faces Plastered

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Agreed. Immaturity isn't something to strive for, or be proud of. It's something I've seen far too much of in recent years of politics.

I'm British and I think that swearing enriches language when used judiciously. Also - expressing emotion and anger is valuable when the situation calls for it. Personally I would have considered something stronger than 'turd' in this case. Oh. Here's Hitchens saying "Fuck" a lot: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HO129-RfhVE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r1fmWVECUI4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bB_dgqy6l4k

Cunts would work much better than turds, which just seems juvenile.

Re: The Turds Who Voted to Sell Out Your Online Privacy Get Their Faces Plastered

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You know what would be even better? An electronic billboard, where the private sexual fetishes of 1 random constituent are publicly displayed, next to their name. A new unlucky constituent is randomly chosen and displayed every day. At the bottom, a bold red banner reads, "[REPRESENTATIVE NAME] TOOK $XX,XXX FROM THE CABLE INDUSTRY, THEN VOTED TO LET THIS HAPPEN."

I'm not sure people would connect with that. Like if Adam and Eve published that some random person ordered a dildo, the public reaction is likely "meh" for everybody who doesn't know said person. Publishing that a congressperson ordered a dildo or butt-plug would get peoples' attention pretty fast- and might accelerate change. I'm starting to warn people not to go to WebMD and similar sites because of recent events.

Perhaps- but the reaction every common person has to the possibility that the next name will be theirs would incite involvement. Switch to the congressman every Friday or something, and randoms in between.

Re: The Turds Who Voted to Sell Out Your Online Privacy Get Their Faces Plastered

#54

Can someone explain what "selling web browsing and app usage data" really means? I don't imagine they literally package sensitive information and distribute it to anyone who pays. In which case, "they sell your data" is completely misleading.

A lot of tracking happens through other means so that Internet advertising agencies (Google/Facebook/etc) can show targeted ads to you across networks of sites. Having the data from the ISP allows them and others who need the data to better fingerprint you and show more targeted ads. But apart from advertising, isn't it conceivable that if the law doesn't forbid it and there is a buyer for your data, that ISP's would sell it to make easy money? There was that recent news of how Uber was buying Lyft email receipt data from a company whose product helped it's customer's manage their email.

Re: The Turds Who Voted to Sell Out Your Online Privacy Get Their Faces Plastered

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You know what would be even better? An electronic billboard, where the private sexual fetishes of 1 random constituent are publicly displayed, next to their name. A new unlucky constituent is randomly chosen and displayed every day. At the bottom, a bold red banner reads, "[REPRESENTATIVE NAME] TOOK $XX,XXX FROM THE CABLE INDUSTRY, THEN VOTED TO LET THIS HAPPEN."

I'm not sure people would connect with that. Like if Adam and Eve published that some random person ordered a dildo, the public reaction is likely "meh" for everybody who doesn't know said person. Publishing that a congressperson ordered a dildo or butt-plug would get peoples' attention pretty fast- and might accelerate change. I'm starting to warn people not to go to WebMD and similar sites because of recent events.

With all the data mishaps these days, I never heard about WebMD. Care to elaborate? A search for WebMD+Leak does not give me results I would choose to click if I didn't have to.

Coincidentally enough, most people(even in tech) didn't hear about the Experian leak, perhaps that was because

1)The data was sold "legally" to the actor

2-∞)...[reasons].

http://krebsonsecurity.com/2014/03/experian-lapse-allowed-id...

Re: The Turds Who Voted to Sell Out Your Online Privacy Get Their Faces Plastered

#56

I am so conflicted. At my core, I believe everyone, regardless of affiliation or beliefs has a right to online privacy. On the other, man do I freaking wish that one of the big porn sites would put up a billboard with the (private) sexual fetishes of these specific elected officials. Edit: I would wish more for the latter if I thought it would change anything.

That's very sex-negative of you to think of sexual fetishes as something you should be ashamed of and keep hidden from others. Also, the kind of porn you watch doesn't imply what you are attracted to.

> the kind of porn you watch doesn't imply what you are attracted to

How does it not imply what you're attracted to?

Re: The Turds Who Voted to Sell Out Your Online Privacy Get Their Faces Plastered

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I'm not sure people would connect with that. Like if Adam and Eve published that some random person ordered a dildo, the public reaction is likely "meh" for everybody who doesn't know said person. Publishing that a congressperson ordered a dildo or butt-plug would get peoples' attention pretty fast- and might accelerate change. I'm starting to warn people not to go to WebMD and similar sites because of recent events.

With all the data mishaps these days, I never heard about WebMD. Care to elaborate? A search for WebMD+Leak does not give me results I would choose to click if I didn't have to. Coincidentally enough, most people(even in tech) didn't hear about the Experian leak, perhaps that was because 1)The data was sold "legally" to the actor 2-∞)...[reasons]. http://krebsonsecurity.com/2014/03/experian-lapse-allowed-id...

No- not a leak, but the idea that insurance companies will be interested in your browsing history.

Re: The Turds Who Voted to Sell Out Your Online Privacy Get Their Faces Plastered

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I'm not sure people would connect with that. Like if Adam and Eve published that some random person ordered a dildo, the public reaction is likely "meh" for everybody who doesn't know said person. Publishing that a congressperson ordered a dildo or butt-plug would get peoples' attention pretty fast- and might accelerate change. I'm starting to warn people not to go to WebMD and similar sites because of recent events.

Perhaps- but the reaction every common person has to the possibility that the next name will be theirs would incite involvement. Switch to the congressman every Friday or something, and randoms in between.

That might work.

Re: The Turds Who Voted to Sell Out Your Online Privacy Get Their Faces Plastered

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That's very sex-negative of you to think of sexual fetishes as something you should be ashamed of and keep hidden from others. Also, the kind of porn you watch doesn't imply what you are attracted to.

> the kind of porn you watch doesn't imply what you are attracted to How does it not imply what you're attracted to?

I read a lot of grotesque guro manga. I'm talking decapitations, body mutilation, etc. However I can't stand the sight of real blood and the idea of even "light" guro IRL is a huge turn off. So I'm not really sure I'd say I'm attracted to the idea so much as I get off to the art style? I'm sure there's other examples (eg: women w/ regards to simulated rape videos) where people can get off to porn of it but aren't necessarily attracted to that thing/idea.

Throwaway for obvious reasons but I figured you deserved an attempt at an answer.

Re: The Turds Who Voted to Sell Out Your Online Privacy Get Their Faces Plastered

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I don't see those views as conflicting. Everyone has a fundamental right to privacy, but one's rights end when stomping on those of others.

This point gets made a lot. "Person/Group X doesn't believe in the right to privacy/free expression/due process/whatever so we shouldn't extend rights to those people." If it's a right, you have it just by being human; it's not given to you as a reward in exchange for good behavior. And there's a good reason for that, because such loopholes are ripe for abuse. Remarkably, people can label and truly believe ANYONE is…

I'm the only person allowed (by me) to be a hypocrite.

The legal doctrines collectively called estoppel ensure this in courts of equity. You cannot first argue one thing and then later argue a contradictory position. And in the court of public opinion, you cannot argue that no one has the right to data privacy and then later try to invoke some form of right to data privacy for yourself.

Most of the time, that doesn't matter. But when a member of a legislature codifies into law that I don't have privacy, I for danged sure am not going to even grant that guy a sliver of a courtesy of a fig leaf of privacy. I would air his dirty laundry immediately and without hesitation the instant any shred of it landed in my lap.

Because rights are a cooperative compact between equals. They are given as a reward for good behavior, but it is the summation of good behavior across hundreds of millions of individuals. It doesn't matter so much what I believe in relation to a right, but what I do. If I, for instance, did not believe that owning and carrying sidearms was a right, I probably would just not own or carry one, and the right would not be affected. If I instead launched a crusade to destroy all pistols, my neighbors would likely be even more unhappy if I did it while carrying for my own protection.

You only have those rights you are willing to extend to others. That is tit-for-tat social strategy writ large.

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