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Re: Elite social media

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Hacker News is the only elite organization I like hanging out at!! All things aside, HN always seems to be so serious in its discussion about content, and I never get the opportunity to say how much I appreciate this place.

I agree. In fact I realized how good a community HN is when I did a Ask HN a while back. I even ended up writing an essay about it: https://medium.com/black-n-white/the-problem-with-problems-4... Compared to the responses at Reddit, Quora and other places the diversity of HN is astounding.

"Compared to the responses at Reddit, Quora and other places the diversity of HN is astounding."

I love HN and have been using for a really long time, but I joined Reddit relatively recently because I found HN to be rather limiting in comparison.

HN certainly can't be accused of being one-note or even two-note anymore, as it could when it first started. It's definitely been growing in diversity of stories as well as users, but it's still mostly about technology and startups. There are certainly articles about all sorts of topics discussed here, but those discussions tend to be relatively short-lived (maybe one or two days max) and then HN moves on to something else.

Compare that to a subreddit like /r/bodyweightfitness[1], where it's basically non-stop talk about the subject day after day after day, and the discussions tend to be pretty high quality ones (certainly at HN level, on this particular subject). HN might see a post about fitness ever now and then, but, again, the discussion will die in one or two days, and the subject does not get explored in anywhere near as much depth as on that subreddit.

That's just one subreddit, and there are thousands more, on virtually every conceivable subject. Not all of them are of high quality, the reddit front page and enormously popular subreddits tend to be garbage, and the overwhelming majority of subreddits are dead, but there are certainly enough quality subreddits to keep my interest and even to entice me from HN.

HN does scratch some itches for me, but not nearly as many as Reddit does. That said, I'm not ditching HN for Reddit, but I am always looking out for other communities with high quality discussions on the subjects I'm interested in.

Apart from Reddit, there are also many specialty forums that have really high quality discussions on their specific subject. For example, the Muffwiggler forum[2], which is a huge forum dedicated to modular synthesizers. Everything conceivable in relation to synths is discussed there, with many subforums on specific manufacturers and subject. It's really active, and the discussions there are super informative. You're just not going to find that kind of depth on HN, or even a synth-specific subreddit.

There are many other great forums out there, too. This is far from a rare example. You do have to search them out, but they are plenty of them out there, on all sorts of subjects. In fact, I'd go so far as to say that HN quality discussion is actually not that rare. You just have to dig below the garbage surface of the internet and it's there.

[1] - https://www.reddit.com/r/bodyweightfitness/

[2] - https://www.muffwiggler.com/forum/index.php

Re: Elite social media

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The Millionaire Next Door isn't about the elite, it's about responsible late-career middle class families who have followed entirely standard middle class practices like going to college, saving for their children's college funds, owning their primary residences, and saving ~15% for retirement every year. A family at median household income ($51k) that mortgaged a median-priced home ($180k) and saved 15% for retireme…

Pro tip: Symphonies price segment like crazy. Except the cheap seats are pretty good. A couple can usually go to a symphony for about the same cost as movie tickets plus movie theater snacks.

It was about $100-200 for two tickets in my city the last time I was pricing them. (Price varies by show, age, and if you're buying tickets to multiple shows.)

So about double a movie + dinner.

Re: Elite social media

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If you have a Bloomberg terminal, you get access to a message board much like Craigslist. If you want to rent out your yacht, that's the place to go.

I want to believe that board is sub-4chan levels of relentless shitposting.

Given the shitposting on /r/wallstreetbets I'm going to say you have a decent chance of being correct.

Re: Elite social media

#54
post #9

Hacker News is the only elite organization I like hanging out at!! All things aside, HN always seems to be so serious in its discussion about content, and I never get the opportunity to say how much I appreciate this place.

Maybe we should have a casual Friday.

Re: Elite social media

#55

It's not quite 'elite' but The Well is a fairly exclusive and well-connected social network, which has been running online for over 30 years now: https://www.well.com/join.html I dabbled in it a couple of decades ago when there was a special-offer for a month's membership, it was certainly highbrow compared to Usenet at the time. $150 is a fair chunk of cash for a year's membership, but does keep the rabble out whils…

Another great one was c2.[1] I've found a lot of really interesting programming-related discussions on there.

There's also Lambda the Ultimate (LtU)[2], which had about the deepest language development related discussions I've seen anywhere.

Yet another interesting one, quite different from the above two and from most anything else out there, was everything2.[3] It was kind of like Wikipedia, but not limited in subject matter to "encyclopedic" entiries, nor to "neutral point of view", so it has a lot of really opinionated, creative, and funny entries. Most people don't know about it, and it's been pretty inactive for many years now, but it does still exist and still has a ton of great content.

[1] - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C2.com

[2] - http://lambda-the-ultimate.org/

[3] - https://www.everything2.com/

Re: Elite social media

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Is my memory corrupted, or didn't Facebook also pretend to be reserved for the "elite" in its infancy? I remember several newspaper articles describing Facebook as the "secret" website where "important" people stays in touch with each others, with some celebrity names listed as reputed users.

Re: Elite social media

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I belong to some of the services listed, including ASW and BOAW and haven't logged on in forever because they're boring. Despite all the hype, these services are ultimately no different from other social clubs and most people have sufficient avenues for socializing with and keeping in touch with people on diverse bases (interest/activity, work, school, family, etc). They proclaim exclusivity but are often trying to g…

> a network is useless without X critical mass of users and Y minimum activity level.

indeed.

Re: Elite social media

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post #56

Is my memory corrupted, or didn't Facebook also pretend to be reserved for the "elite" in its infancy? I remember several newspaper articles describing Facebook as the "secret" website where "important" people stays in touch with each others, with some celebrity names listed as reputed users.

It started out requiring an @harvard.edu address, then expanded to other elite .edu addresses, before opening membership to the public.

Re: Elite social media

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post #56

Is my memory corrupted, or didn't Facebook also pretend to be reserved for the "elite" in its infancy? I remember several newspaper articles describing Facebook as the "secret" website where "important" people stays in touch with each others, with some celebrity names listed as reputed users.

I joined pretty early when it was still invite only and mostly university population. Perhaps it was described that way because of being invite only but the membership has always been normal, non-elite people (like me).
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