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Microsoft to shut down Wunderlist in favor of its new app, To-Do

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Re: Microsoft to shut down Wunderlist in favor of its new app, To-Do

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Taskwarrior on Desktop and Taskwarrior + Termux on Android is the most flexible, private, open and lightweight TODO manager I've ever used. No eye candy whatsoever, just pure power. I've been using the combo for a few years now, give it a look.

Termux on Android

OMG that is AWESOME

Re: Microsoft to shut down Wunderlist in favor of its new app, To-Do

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Seems like users need to have an (Office 365/Outlook) account with Microsoft to use To-Do. Big turndown, most of my colleagues are using Macs and have no need for Microsoft (no, not even Office), seems we need to switch (again).

what do you use instead of MSOffice?

Google Apps, Keynote, OpenOffice. Combination thereof.

Re: Microsoft to shut down Wunderlist in favor of its new app, To-Do

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I use Google Keep for this. Works well enough. When Microsoft bought Wunderlist I moved away from it as I guessed it would be replaced by a lesser product (at least initially) and probably folded into Office 365.

I mustn't be the only who thinks it's ironic to move to a Google product/service in hope of avoiding something disappearing. ;)

Ha yeah I know what you mean. I am still angry about Reader.

For now at least it seems Google is putting work into Keep so I hope it won't disappear anytime soon.

Unfortunately having a todo/notes app that allows for account controlled sharing is tricky to do without some kind of service. Unless you want to get all ghetto and build something that works on top of something like Dropbox but that gets problematic as Dropbox isn't designed to be used that way.

I built my own test program that used a protected-shared Google Sheet as its data source but at that point you might as well just use Keep!

Re: Microsoft to shut down Wunderlist in favor of its new app, To-Do

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Damn, now I need to move faster. My app must be ready by the time they close Wunderlist. I expected an eventual closure, but not that soon. I've spent the last two years developing a todo app that would be a good replacement for Wunderlist (and Astrid, if anyone still remembers that). The app will include with some major / critical features both those apps lacked: proper hierarchies / first-class subtasks, automatica…

> I went full waterfall on it, the spec is 266 pages long and took half a year just to write.

Why would you write a ~9k “loc” long spec over 6 month instead of coding it directly ? The only reason I can think of, is if you want to out-source the development. Is there any good reason to work this way on a one-man project ?

Re: Microsoft to shut down Wunderlist in favor of its new app, To-Do

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Seems like users need to have an (Office 365/Outlook) account with Microsoft to use To-Do. Big turndown, most of my colleagues are using Macs and have no need for Microsoft (no, not even Office), seems we need to switch (again).

You don't need Office accounts, a Microsoft account is enough. I'm pretty sure they are free. If you switch to another service, there is a change you will have to create users on that service anyways, no?

Re: Microsoft to shut down Wunderlist in favor of its new app, To-Do

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If anyone is looking for an alternative that will probably be around for a long time, check out Todoist [1]: they are bootstrapped and profitable and been around for 10 years.

In terms of product - it's as simple to use as Wunderlist, but does have a few extra features. And they are cross platform like Wunderlist.

(I'm not affiliated with them. Just a happy user.)

[1] https://todoist.com

Re: Microsoft to shut down Wunderlist in favor of its new app, To-Do

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Sparrow, Sunrise, Wunderlist... all the good apps just get bought and killed.

self hosting where possible from now on for me Wunderlist was super useful - fast, all devices in sync, excellent browser version starting to rethink using so many hosted services now - Zerigo is closing too in 10 days - that was another service a lot of time had been invested in setting up it feels like the better a service is the more chance the team gets borged and the app shut down

I get grumpy about cloud services coming and going, and I can imagine how much marketing data we're all providing to Microsoft by sharing our shopping list this way, but then I remember what a pain in the ass hosting my own email was for a decade and what that would be like in this era of massive botnets.

Then I put my cane away because as much as I wave it at clouds, I will still use cloud services over having to host my own.

Re: Microsoft to shut down Wunderlist in favor of its new app, To-Do

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post #54

Damn, now I need to move faster. My app must be ready by the time they close Wunderlist. I expected an eventual closure, but not that soon. I've spent the last two years developing a todo app that would be a good replacement for Wunderlist (and Astrid, if anyone still remembers that). The app will include with some major / critical features both those apps lacked: proper hierarchies / first-class subtasks, automatica…

> I went full waterfall on it, the spec is 266 pages long and took half a year just to write. Why would you write a ~9k “loc” long spec over 6 month instead of coding it directly ? The only reason I can think of, is if you want to out-source the development. Is there any good reason to work this way on a one-man project ?

Not OP, but once you have a spec, it's much easier to code up. If you're designing while you're coding, you have to switch all the time between 'how should this work' and 'how do I build this'. Thinking and writing down how something should work, should always be the first step - regardless of whether you're on your own or in a big team.

(before the obvious objection: exceptions are toy programs which you write to find out how to build something, in which you focus on the technical aspects. The technical aspects ('how does it work') don't matter for the end user (= your potential customer), they only care about 'what does it do'.)

Re: Microsoft to shut down Wunderlist in favor of its new app, To-Do

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post #41

Taskwarrior on Desktop and Taskwarrior + Termux on Android is the most flexible, private, open and lightweight TODO manager I've ever used. No eye candy whatsoever, just pure power. I've been using the combo for a few years now, give it a look.

How do you sync between devices?
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