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Why give them work with decent wages? Just give people what they need: free stuff! Seriously, you were just joking, were you?
Free housing is one of the benefits mentioned in the article.
Farming is one of the most dangerous jobs in the US. There are reasons aside from money that people choose to pursue other careers.
I would think it being seasonal would put a big damper on people wanting to do it: if you can only work 6-8 months a year, what are you going to do the rest of the time?
Well then obviously wages haven't risen enough. For an extreme example, pay me 200$ an hour and I'll quit my web dev job and do it myself.
If money was the sole determiner of what kind of job you'd choose to work, you'd be in finance, enterprise sales, or medicine, not webdev. There's no amount you could pay me to be a farmer, just like there's no amount you could pay be to become a doctor, a salesman, a lawyer, etc. I'm in tech because I like what I do.
Medicine requires many years of your life in training, and going hundreds of thousands of dollars in debt.
Also, it is extremely competitive and I'd probably fail out of it. High risk for no guaranteed payout.
Finance also doesn't actually pay that much. I had friends working at banks right out of college making Being a lawyer at a not top tier institute also sucks in terms of pay/requires debt and training .
Tech really is quite high paying and good for people at all levels. I know people who did bootcamps and are now making 100K with a couple months of training.
No other industry offers THAT.
When I was younger, I worked at a McDonalds in SoCal. Almost all the employees were white teenagers. The managers were white as well. We didn't make much, just a bit above minimum wage, but we were all mostly high-school students or college students working in the summer to pay tuition. This went on until around 1984 or so, when it became much harder to hire this demographic. It wasn't as cool to work at fast food, a…
Well then obviously wages haven't risen enough. For an extreme example, pay me 200$ an hour and I'll quit my web dev job and do it myself.
Are you sure? Here's a real example: you can work as an electrician on a mine site here in Australia on a fly-in, fly-out ("FIFO") basis. Typical rosters are 11/3 (days on/off), 2/1 (weeks on/off), etc. You work through weekends when you are on, and often do ~12-13 hour days. Food is good, beds aren't bad, Internet connectivity is 'passable' and the weather is extremely hot. Many of these jobs pay (substantially!) mo…
Because the other, tough job, doesn't pay enough. People prefer the easy, fun job that pays enough.
edit: This is so obvious that everyone who makes the argument that Americans won't take jobs always elides over the exact number of the pay difference as if it isn't the most important factor. This article is pretty great because it doesn't. It makes clear that they're paying a pittance, which due to legislation has become a significantly larger pittance over the past 30 years, massively improving the lives of some of the most vulnerable people.
How many children got a winter coat because people paid an extra 50 cents for a bottle of wine?
Immigration laws seem likely to be enforced, illegal alien labor scabs self-deport in advance, and wages rise. Not hard to understand.
> illegal alien labor scabs self-deport in advance, and wages rise You know when there was a bug in the codebase so hard to fix and for so many years that developers started building on top of that and considered the bug to be 'not really a bug' but more of a design decision. And then some new hire comes along and fixes it without a deep understanding of the dependencies and breaks existing functionality. And then th…
When I was younger, I worked at a McDonalds in SoCal. Almost all the employees were white teenagers. The managers were white as well. We didn't make much, just a bit above minimum wage, but we were all mostly high-school students or college students working in the summer to pay tuition. This went on until around 1984 or so, when it became much harder to hire this demographic. It wasn't as cool to work at fast food, a…
What jobs did the teens from affluent families get instead of fast food service?
Well then obviously wages haven't risen enough. For an extreme example, pay me 200$ an hour and I'll quit my web dev job and do it myself.
Are you sure? Here's a real example: you can work as an electrician on a mine site here in Australia on a fly-in, fly-out ("FIFO") basis. Typical rosters are 11/3 (days on/off), 2/1 (weeks on/off), etc. You work through weekends when you are on, and often do ~12-13 hour days. Food is good, beds aren't bad, Internet connectivity is 'passable' and the weather is extremely hot. Many of these jobs pay (substantially!) mo…
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To the downvoters, I meant no disrespect but it was a fact.
It was AIDS infested Africa. Entire villages were wiped out by a disease. That didn't matter because there was oil to be extracted.
We heard less if at all about it here. But we got the oil.
Farming is one of the most dangerous jobs in the US. There are reasons aside from money that people choose to pursue other careers.
If anyone else wants data on this assertion (farming as one of the most dangerous jobs in the US). It certainly appears to be up there, in both gross and per capita numbers. Seems to largely (for agricultural workers) be associated with transportation (not equipment, so perhaps the way many workers travel around fields and all in the back of trucks and similar unsafe methods?).