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Re: Hacked Twitter Accounts Post Swastikas, Pro-Erdogan Content

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There's also a highly contentious Netherlands elections today[1] and there was a swift escalation in Turkish-Dutch politics yesterday[2]. [1] http://www.cnn.com/2017/03/15/europe/netherlands-election-po... [2] http://www.dutchnews.nl/news/archives/2017/03/turkey-suspend...

As an aside, I wonder what the history books will say about our time in 100 years or so. It's interesting to think that we are all a part, no matter how large or small, of history in the making. For better or worse.

2016 was the first year I've lived through where I thought to myself "This is a year people will list in the history books." In the same way people know dates like 1929 or 1848; I don't necessarily think things will turn out that consequential in the long run, but I can envision children asking me "So what was it like to live through that?"

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I agree, but the PM (Rutte) and his party are definitely benefiting. He had many opportunities before to go harder on Erdogan i.e. when Erdogan bought oil from IS but "we" needed him to keep refugees out of Europe. The stance is certainly not against Muslims although people might feel it that way. It is against the fact the pro-Erdogan Turks and anti-Erdogan Turks and Curds etc cause unrest in the Netherlands. Most p…

Putting oil on the fire is a core part of Erdoğan's strategy. He's afraid that not enough Turks will vote in a couple weeks for the constitutional reform that will establish himself as dictator for life, so he has been trying to stoke nationalist resentment against EU countries for the last months, so that when they respond to his provocations he can represent himself as defender of the Turkish nation from outside at…

Of all the governments in the world today, I am most impressed by Merkel's Germany. She has remarkable ability to stand strong in the face of criticism and do what's right without bowing to populism.

Re: Hacked Twitter Accounts Post Swastikas, Pro-Erdogan Content

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post #53
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As an aside, I wonder what the history books will say about our time in 100 years or so. It's interesting to think that we are all a part, no matter how large or small, of history in the making. For better or worse.

2016 was the first year I've lived through where I thought to myself "This is a year people will list in the history books." In the same way people know dates like 1929 or 1848; I don't necessarily think things will turn out that consequential in the long run, but I can envision children asking me "So what was it like to live through that?"

Why 1848?

Re: Hacked Twitter Accounts Post Swastikas, Pro-Erdogan Content

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Your source is http://www.middleeasteye.net "Middle East Eye is registered as M.E.E. Limited. Registered in England & Wales, Number: 08803692." http://www.middleeasteye.net/contact-1077837563 About M.E.E. Ltd. from companieshouse.gov.uk: https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/08803692/officers Google "BESSASSO, Jamal Awn Jamal" (named as officer @companieshouse). First result: http://www.thenational.ae/uae/al-jaz…

> ""A senior executive with Qatar’s TV network Al Jazeera was closely involved with setting up the London news website Middle East Eye, some of whose staff have links to organisations sympathetic to the Muslim Brotherhood." So you eliminate as sources any company that might have some staff "sympathetic" to the Muslim Brotherhood? That probably extends much further than you think. > BOOOOM! You didn't say anything rev…

>some staff "sympathetic" to the Muslim Brotherhood

I think you're accidentally overstating the strength of their case, probably just the clause-level equivalent of a typo.

They actually said:

> some of whose staff have links to organisations sympathetic to the Muslim Brotherhood.

So, just to be clear, they're excluding anything with (interpreting the vague language generously) staff member -> an organisation -> Muslim Brotherhood) as a reliable source.

Totally unscientific, but to put this in a kind of very loose and silly context, Facebook claims that its users are on average connected to every other user by 3.57 degrees of separation. I suspect that the figure for this kind of connection is actually, relatively, much higher, but I sincerely doubt it's all that much higher than 4 (i.e. enough to make this sort of connection relevant) - especially when you think that these aren't even friendship relationships, but something so much weaker!

edit: the link to Facebook's claim - https://research.fb.com/three-and-a-half-degrees-of-separati... and some typos and omissions of my own

Re: Hacked Twitter Accounts Post Swastikas, Pro-Erdogan Content

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2016 was the first year I've lived through where I thought to myself "This is a year people will list in the history books." In the same way people know dates like 1929 or 1848; I don't necessarily think things will turn out that consequential in the long run, but I can envision children asking me "So what was it like to live through that?"

Why 1848?

Very important year for Europe: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revolutions_of_1848 (My American education completely ignored it)

Re: Hacked Twitter Accounts Post Swastikas, Pro-Erdogan Content

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So they basically had already access to all those accounts for presumably a long time (months?) just to make that one coordinated post today?

Kinda scary...the amount of effort put in to make this possible as well as the intended (unknown? NL?) goal from the attackers POV.

Re: Hacked Twitter Accounts Post Swastikas, Pro-Erdogan Content

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As an aside, I wonder what the history books will say about our time in 100 years or so. It's interesting to think that we are all a part, no matter how large or small, of history in the making. For better or worse.

2016 was the first year I've lived through where I thought to myself "This is a year people will list in the history books." In the same way people know dates like 1929 or 1848; I don't necessarily think things will turn out that consequential in the long run, but I can envision children asking me "So what was it like to live through that?"

2001 was the first time I thought that. Then 2008. Now, I agree, 2016 is on the list.
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