South Korean President Impeached • Hacker News Board

Re: South Korean President Impeached

#51

Post by lifthrasiir » Fri, Mar 10, 2017, 3:46 AM UTC

pcurve wrote: post #41

jdoliner wrote: post #3

This is obviously a bit pedantic but technically she was already impeached. This article is about her being convicted in the impeachment trial. The post title also doesn't match with the article title which more correctly states that she's been ousted.

Technically, she wasn't impeached. But the way impeachment process works in SK, once the process begins, you are no longer able to function as president. So 'effectively', she was already impeached. Obviously I'm the one being pedantic. lol.

More accurately speaking, in South Korea both the congress and the president is elected by direct nationwide voting, therefore it takes a separate process for the congress to fully impeach the president: the congress votes to impeach and the constitutional court decides whether to approve it. Therefore she has not been impeached, but merely has been suspended til the decision (Roh Moo-hyun [1] is currently a sole example to survive this process). This is quite different to how the impeachment works in USA.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roh_Moo-hyun

Re: South Korean President Impeached

#52

Post by adrianmonk » Fri, Mar 10, 2017, 3:48 AM UTC

simpx wrote: post #46

nether wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My cousin is a historian of Korea, and well, Korean herself. She says this president is like Korea's GWB. Shamelessly very right wing, a lot of gaffes related to speech and behavior. There are going to be a lot of happy people tonight.

sorry, but what's GWB stands for?

George W. Bush

Re: South Korean President Impeached

#53

Post by Kieslowski » Fri, Mar 10, 2017, 3:48 AM UTC

simpx wrote: post #46

nether wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My cousin is a historian of Korea, and well, Korean herself. She says this president is like Korea's GWB. Shamelessly very right wing, a lot of gaffes related to speech and behavior. There are going to be a lot of happy people tonight.

sorry, but what's GWB stands for?

No post body was provided.

Re: South Korean President Impeached

#54

Post by poofyleek » Fri, Mar 10, 2017, 3:49 AM UTC

This is indeed huge. I left Korea right after Park Jung-hee was assassinated by one of his officers. Predictably, this was followed by a military coup and martial law. Park Jung-hee himself seized the reign by means of his own military coup against the previous president. His daughter, Park guen-hye, is now outed by the Supreme court, peacefully. In the old south Korea I remember, the same court had ruled in favor of the military regime to condemn Kim dae-jung to death sentence. Kim dae-jung later was elected president after the democratization of south Korea. I remember the heavily armed soldiers everywhere as I was leaving the country, after the assassination. That is my last memory of Korea. I have not been back since 1979. Perhaps now it is time for me to go back and visit. Congratulations to the Korean people.

Re: South Korean President Impeached

#55

Post by lifthrasiir » Fri, Mar 10, 2017, 3:51 AM UTC

nether wrote: post #36

bane wrote: post #9

This is huge. Early analysis is that this is a net positive for Korean democracy since the entire process, from protests to ouster was relatively peaceful and the people involved in the ouster tried to follow the rule of law as much as possible. It's exercised for the first time a part of the legal system that's never been explored in the country. At each stage of the very complex process, the government figured out…

My cousin is a historian of Korea, and well, Korean herself. She says this president is like Korea's GWB. Shamelessly very right wing, a lot of gaffes related to speech and behavior. There are going to be a lot of happy people tonight.

> She says this president is like Korea's GWB.

If she were like GWB we wouldn't have gone this far. She is more like Nixon, but worse.

Re: South Korean President Impeached

#56

Post by throwaway17854 » Fri, Mar 10, 2017, 3:53 AM UTC

sideproject wrote: post #24

As a Korean, I feel bittersweet for my mother country. It's embarrassing that this is happening, yet I feel relieved now that people of Korea can move forward - here's hoping for electing a more qualified president next.

You should feel more proud than embarrassed that this is happening. Occasionally, an unqualified candidate will be elected. The ability to remove that person from power is much more important than the difficult problem of making sure the person is never elected in the first place. On the other hand, I do feel empathy for your feeling of embarrassment, as I am an American (yes I'm referring to the Trump election).

Re: South Korean President Impeached

#57

Post by ComputerGuru » Fri, Mar 10, 2017, 3:54 AM UTC

bane wrote: post #9

This is huge. Early analysis is that this is a net positive for Korean democracy since the entire process, from protests to ouster was relatively peaceful and the people involved in the ouster tried to follow the rule of law as much as possible. It's exercised for the first time a part of the legal system that's never been explored in the country. At each stage of the very complex process, the government figured out…

Not really huge, very expected for anyone that's been keeping tabs on the situation there.

Re: South Korean President Impeached

#58

Post by dang » Fri, Mar 10, 2017, 3:56 AM UTC

jdjebc82747 wrote: post #23

How to get top comment on HN: condescendingly dictate the importance: SK pres impeached: "This is huge" Gmail add ons: "This is a really big deal"

Meta is pretty bad and snark is really bad. Please don't post meta snark.

We detached this subthread from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13836006 and marked it off-topic.

Re: South Korean President Impeached

#59

Post by lifthrasiir » Fri, Mar 10, 2017, 3:56 AM UTC

poofyleek wrote: post #54

This is indeed huge. I left Korea right after Park Jung-hee was assassinated by one of his officers. Predictably, this was followed by a military coup and martial law. Park Jung-hee himself seized the reign by means of his own military coup against the previous president. His daughter, Park guen-hye, is now outed by the Supreme court, peacefully. In the old south Korea I remember, the same court had ruled in favor of…

Some says the October "Restoration" [1] has been finally put down today. I hearily agree.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/October_Restoration

Re: South Korean President Impeached

#60

Post by Judgmentality » Fri, Mar 10, 2017, 3:57 AM UTC

acchow wrote: post #47

Judgmentality wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Specifically for the IQ, isn't the average designed to be the median? It's a normal distribution after all.

Can't actually have a normal distribution that has a bound on one end...

There's no reason an IQ couldn't be negative. Granted, I don't think the IQ test is properly calibrated for this and I don't think real world data perfectly fits the bell curve as designed, so it's kind of moot point.