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Thoughts on the Late 2016 MacBook Pro

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Re: Thoughts on the Late 2016 MacBook Pro

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At the end of the day, it's just a so-so offering from Apple that has more than a so-so price tag attached. But, in it's defense, I will say one thing: I thought I would hate the keyboard. I'm the guy who spends hundreds on the best mechanical keyboards, but I was left completely impressed with the new keyboard and how well it just works. Everything about is wrong on paper, but when you begin typing, the results are…

Agree with the keyboard. The 32gb model is waiting on Intel.

Re: Thoughts on the Late 2016 MacBook Pro

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Choice-supportive_bias "In cognitive science, choice-supportive bias or post-purchase rationalization is the tendency to retroactively ascribe positive attributes to an option one has selected" I can't imagine many people would say many negative things about their $3700 laptop, even if it has multiple issues.

It's actually £3700, so approximately $4650 (US). Eye watering indeed.

Holy shit. Why?? Is it around the same cost in Euros? I don't understand this. I literally paid half of that for mine.

Re: Thoughts on the Late 2016 MacBook Pro

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> The keyboard has suffered so much criticism that I have to wonder: who of those who condemn it, have actually used it for a sustained period?

I got a 2015 Macbook as soon as it shipped. Within a few months, the butterfly mechanism had collapsed on several keys. A couple Apple Store repairs later, they're still breaking often enough that the 2015 Macbook is mostly collecting dust and shame.

When I saw what they'd done with the MBPr for 2016, I decided to overhaul pre-2016 ones indefinitely, because it's pretty much that or Dell XPS13 hackintosh. That keyboard is proof that the devil is not only real, but has subverted Apple's once-rigorous design process.

The rest of the machine looks good to me.

Re: Thoughts on the Late 2016 MacBook Pro

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I've got the 13" maxed out Late 2016. I've owned every form factor of the MacBook Pro and this is my least favorite. I like the USB-C and have bought into the tradeoff of having no Magsafe. It's also a minor plus to be able to plug in either side of the machine. The TouchID is good too. However, I've found the TouchID extremely laggy for some reason (esp. on unlock) which really reduced the benefit. The keyboard is _…

Same. The TouchBar needs a lot of tweaking at a software level. My problem is when I hit "Play" or "Pause" I expect my music to play or pause. The problem is that it's possible for other apps to steal focus for play and pause. For example if you're watching a video clip in Safari and hit Pause to stop your music after you started playing the video, it will pause the video. The most annoying thing I'm dealing with at…

> The most annoying thing I'm dealing with at the moment is HipChat stealing focus of the play button. When that happens and I hit that play button, HipChat just plays the new message sound. Its so dumb.

Is the HipChat app built on something like Electron? It could be they're using a hidden element to play the new message sound which the browser engine thinks you want to play/pause.

Re: Thoughts on the Late 2016 MacBook Pro

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He says dongles and cables are "a non-issue" and buys over 7 new dongles, 2 new custom cables, plus a new card reader?

It's USB-C - a (very safe) bet on connectors aligned with the new industry standard.

I thought about getting a 2016 MBP, and I'd just get a charging hub with legacy USB support and be happy.

Re: Thoughts on the Late 2016 MacBook Pro

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I'm always surprised when developers don't talk about the F keys in their reviews of the new MBP. I mostly agree with the author regarding the escape key, the touch bar isn't really a problem in that regard, it still works and I got used to "pressing" it on the touchbar really quickly. I really really miss physical F keys though. I spend a lot of time debugging (either in the Chrome debugger or in IDEs) where pressin…

It's a real detriment to UI, it costs you battery life, it's a distracting gimmick, and it adds $200 to the cost of your machine. And Apple will never give up on it. Every Mac is going to be worse for years and years because of it. Enjoy.

If Apple keeps it, they will improve on it to the point where it doesn't suck.

Re: Thoughts on the Late 2016 MacBook Pro

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I saw the new MacBooks in person 2 days ago and kept asking, "why would I buy one of these?" Cheap feeling keyboard, useless difference in thickness, and only 16gb. Not going back under 32 with Photoshop ever.

I'll stick with my 2013 and look at a Lenovo 2-1 next. Pretty tired of OS X too.

Re: Thoughts on the Late 2016 MacBook Pro

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He says dongles and cables are "a non-issue" and buys over 7 new dongles, 2 new custom cables, plus a new card reader?

When they're cheap and small enough to leave on all your existing cables, then yeah, they're probably a non issue.

May be even better in the new MBP because you don't have to care what port to plug into since they're all the same- I always end up trying to plug USB into the magsafe on my 2015 MBP since USB is in the same position on the right side.

Re: Thoughts on the Late 2016 MacBook Pro

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£3,700 is just a monumental amount of money. You'd be much better off buying a cheaper laptop (even a MacBook, or MBP without TouchBar) and a more powerful desktop (Hackintosh if you will)

> You'd be much better off buying a cheaper laptop

...or five cheaper laptops. You could do that and still have money to spare.

Then you could make a big laptop dispenser, shaped like a gigantic Kleenex box, and just discard your computer whenever the screen gets a bit dirty.

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