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I couldn't find the video, i suppose the soundcloud link on Verge has the audio where he does say we should not keep people who went good American schools. link : https://soundcloud.com/breitbart/breitbart-news-daily-donald... The part where he says, "a country is more than a economy, it's also a civic society" in the context that there are more south asian CEO's in silicon valley is terrifying.
Why Silicon Valley Wouldn't Work Without Immigrants
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#52Trump's immigration policies are truly abhorrent. I agree with the article that tech doesn't work like a factory, it's people are not necessarily fungible. However, attracting the very best people is not how the H1B visa system is being (ab)used at the moment - for example the minimum wage was set back in 1989, and should be more like $130,000 in 2017, given inflation. So much as it pains me to agree on anything with…
> for example the minimum wage was set back in 1989 1998, under the American Competitiveness and Workforce Improvement Act[1]. $60,000 in 1998 would be about $89,000 today, after adjusting for inflation. Trump's initiative is around $40K above that. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Competitiveness_and_W...
I have a hard time believing $89k is the equivalent of $60k in 1998. Gas was $1 a gallon, average rent in LA was $900, health insurance was $35 a month, DOW was at 9k.
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Steve Bannon does.
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#54The immigration-related policies I've heard of were: * H1B wage increase: I heard a rumor somewhere that they were thinking about raising the minimum wage for either H1B visas or NAFTA jobs to $130k. That shouldn't affect the Googles and Apples of the world at all; if anything, it benefits them because it frees the slots the cheap H1B outsourcing firms are taking up, or removes competition from low-paying startups. *…
Describing people as "high quality" is part of the problem. Are people from Syria low quality? They are human beings just like us, fleeing a conflict which has destroyed their lives.
> They’re looking for the LeBrons and Bradys — the best people in the world
"High-quality" means "would pass an interview at a top tech company that your typical US mediocre programmer or CS graduate would fail", or perhaps "could work as a senior executive at a top tech company". The article is presenting an argument that hiring at tech companies would be affected; humanitarian concerns are irrelevant to that argument.
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#55Questions for Valley workers: at what point is enough enough? What will it take to pack it up and leave? Would you consider moving to a different country or returning to a home country? If so, would you continue to work for your current employer, would you look for a job in the local market, or would you found a startup?
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http://www.theverge.com/2016/11/16/13653490/steve-bannon-tru...
I was hoping for an actual quote from Bannon that supports that claim, instead of an article that admits: > While Bannon didn’t explicitly say anything against immigrants, then adds the partisan spin: > he seemed to hint ...
When asked about students staying back in the country after going to Ivy league schools the quote is
“When two-thirds or three-quarters of the CEOs in Silicon Valley are from South Asia or from Asia, I think . . . ” Bannon said, not finishing the sentence. “A country is more than an economy. We’re a civic society.”
Which implies that he would prefer fewer legal immigrants. The three-quarters figure is of course a gross exagerration.
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Last I checked, white men still bankrolled and ran the show and held most of the tech jobs. What was your experience?
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I work in higher education, and H1bs have been very useful for attracting talented faculty from all over the world. It's neither a perfect nor fundamentally broken system, but to understand how to fix it we should feel free to discuss the flaws and benefits openly.
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http://mcfeely.areavoices.com/2017/02/01/bannon-legal-immigr... "Isn’t the beating heart of this problem, the real beating heart of it, of what we got to get sorted out here, is not illegal immigration, as horrific as that is and it’s horrific, don’t we have a problem and we’ve looked the other way on this legal immigration..." -- Bannon
"... and how it’s overwhelmed the country? When you look and it’s got 61 million, 20 percent of the country is immigrants. Is that not a massive problem?"
I don't know about those numbers, they seem to come from a right-wing think-tank called the Center for Immigration Studies [1], but wasn't Bannon claiming that there are too many immigrants? Which wouldn't be the same as wanting to stop all immigration.
1: http://cis.org/61-Million-Immigrants-and-Their-Young-Childre...
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Loss of privilege feels like oppression, but it isn't.
There are circumstances that the purpose of removal of privileges is specifically for oppression.
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> and those dollars in the economy are concentrated in hands of the very wealthy on the backs of immigrants. You're very obviously wrong. The employees of Tesla and its suppliers will extract the extreme majority of all financial value from the existence of Tesla. If Tesla survives for 20 years, that tally will be in the multiple hundreds of billions. Elon Musk will end up owning a single digit percentage of that val…
Fantasy. The vast overwhelming majority of corporation valuation is in stockholders' hands. By what measure can employees be seen to benefit from this? They are given a tiny stream of revenue for their labor. That's it. Explain.